Posts by wokeup

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The Power Of "IF"

by dubstepped in

so, the whole may money grab episode of jwtv really looks bad to me and many others, obviously many here.

i was looking on another website dedicated to active jw's and if you'll notice on post number 109 a little ways down (<click there to read) a person named luca dares to express some concerns over the latest episode.

the following pages do contain one more person that has some issue with how things were presented.

wokeup

'if you look at it even with eyes of a JW with any thinking ability whatsoever, it is just appalling how much power they give the organization and in particular the FDS in their lives.'

Some are drinking the kool-aid awfully heavy:

'I've started watching the May 2015 broadcast, but not finished yet. It is so touching my heart! To think, that the organization needs our donations! What a privilege! It just shows how Jehovah is speeding up the work as we need more and more kingdom halls & branches. It really feels like people are flocking to the mountain of Jehovah in this time of the end.'

'I guess we'll have to dig a little deeper now and maybe start buying less fresh food and goodies! About the only thing we can cut back on now to help with kingdom interests is our groceries! We have already done things to ensure that we are keeping our eye simple. We've cancelled our cable TV and gone to just basic/local channels, and our internet speed to basic... but now seeing the videos on tv.jw.org is a bit choppy - it takes extra time to load and times out a lot. So maybe Jehovah will understand if we go back to a higher internet speed. It is something to pray about. We need the broadcasts to help keep us spiritually strong, so perhaps that can be part of our budget for "kingdom interests"!~

'We are prayerfully thinking about cancelling or cashing out some of our life insurance policies -- and using that to further the kingdom work. We know that Jehovah is speeding up the work and Armageddon can be here any day! '

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Throwing a wrench in child baptism.

by runForever in

1 corinthians 7:14 tells us: "for the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.".

so the sanctification of children of "christians" depends on the holiness of their parents not the "baptism" of young children.

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wokeup

I agree. the Bible does not teach nor give explicit examples of child baptism. From a Christian perspective one would look at Jesus Christ's example. From a societal perspective, at least the age of accountability or legal age.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Crime Map

by Watchtower-Free in

crimes committed by jehovahs witnesseshttp://aawa.co/jw-crime-map/.

wokeup

I was looking over the map and noticed they forgot to included Christian Longo who murdered his wife Mary Jane and their 3 children in Oregon, dumping the bodies in water with concrete blocks if my memory serves me correctly.

10

Usage of FDS and Faithful Slave.

by runForever in

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wokeup

It hasn't been my imagination. Thanks! Goes along with all the 'nu-lite' lately.

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Jesus Christ vs Christ Jesus

by runForever in

mentions in the wt.

christ jesus:.

jesus christ:.

wokeup

I'm curious. Could you do one with the "FDS". That would be very interesting indeed.

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New Understanding of Slave Class

by mrquik in

jw
friends

good morning all (good evening to those on the wrong side of the world);.

could someone explain the new arrangement with the "anointed"?

is anyone other than the gb in this class anymore?

wokeup

When the governing Body 2.0 re-wrote the Theological history of the Society in that infamous Jul 15 2013 Watchtower, they accomplished several things

. 1. They threw their founder CTR under the wheels of the celestial chariot, implying he not only wasn't part of the FDS but wasn't anointed either by implying he did a 'work' like that of John the Baptist.

2. That in turn, elevated Judge Rutherford and his cronies to be the first fruits of the FDS upon release from the Atlanta Penitentiary in 1919.

3. By implying that only the leadership and later the governing body are the FDS, they neutered the remaining heavenly hope wannabes of JW's of special status.

4. They continue to try to validate their perceived importance by referring to the Parable at Luke 12:41 as a prophetic fulfillment of themselves.

5. The governing body continues to bask in their present leadership role, reward of immortality and the privilege of slaughtering their critics and 99.9% of 'unbelieving mankind'.

13

User sign-in issues

by Simon in

just a heads-up / status update - i'm still working on the issues so please don't think i've abandoned you if you still can't sign in and i haven't replied to your email.. i will get things sorted out and then we'll have the old gang back together.. thanks again to you all for your patience and perseverance while the teething problems are being ironed out.

wokeup

Simon, thank you for fixing the bugs on my end!

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Do Beta Blocker side effects ever go away

by Quarterback in

jw
friends

everybody cringes when i tell them that my dr wants to put me on beta blockers.

is there an alternative to not going on them if your dr recommends it?

maybe armegeddon is around the corner and i may not have to worry about it..

wokeup

Beta Blockers in themselves are not generally good at hypertension control. They are usually given in conjunction

with one or more anti-hypertensives. Many physicians prescribe an Ace-Inhibitor as a first line of treatment. Beta Blockers

are more effective in the treatment of an arrhythmia disorder. Bradycardia, the desired or not so desired effect, is most

pronounced upon start up. As time goes by, your heart rate will increase some. The flip side to it, many patients

report Beta Blockers have a calming effect on them. This is medically substantiated. A matter of fact, Beta Blockers are

banned in some sports due to the edge it gives some athletes, reducing essential tremor, such as in Archery and sports

requiring precision and a steady hand.

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Most absurd thing I heard at the convention yesterday!

by Batman89 in

brother lett was giving the last talk of the day about what they supposedly accomplished in 100 years.

i was just waking up so im paraphrasing alittle(i was dosing off all day) anyways in his introduction he said.

"there is more evidence to prove gods kingdom on the earth is a reality than wind,electricity and gravity is a reality on the earth".

wokeup

I've understood the governing bodies' stance they believe 'they' are running the physical manifestation

of God's Kingdom on earth, AKA the Watchtower. Their doctrine on the execution of events leading to their furher glorification

was re-iterated at this years convention in one of Friday's talks. The speaker stated the faithful slave/anointed were

to be wisked to heaven at the outbreak of the Tribulation, crowned as kings, then to swoop back down to

earth and take out all those that did not obey them during their stint at Watchtower. Ushering in the New World (order).

The survivors will then be under their loving guidance for a 1,000 years more.

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Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Reject The Bible's Example Concerning Baptism

by Watchtower-Free in

i asked the below questions to 2 of my elders a few week ago ................................silence.

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wokeup

Designs, that's true, baptismal requirements had been devised long ago, how each denominations' 'requirements'

stand up to the example set out in the Bible vary. I feel the Mat. 28 'command' conflicts with the record in Acts that

shows the apostles baptizing only in Jesus' name.