of course were all so familiar with the way the society covers up it tracks and it has taken a lot of work to expose its coruption.. but are there more sinister discoveries awaiting?.
why is the society so keen to cover up peadophilia in the organisation?.
does it reach higher than we are presently aware?.
Sleepy, I can only answer one question for you. The worth of the WTBTS is listed at just under 1 Billion. 951 million according to newsday.com listing of the top 40 businesses in NY city. I'm not sure that includes all the KH's that have the society as its "benefactor".
Allen
today i was thinking about how the 1st century christians had several congregations in place as well as a governing body.
so i'm wondering is that a valid reason for there to be a current governing body today?.
also i've been contemplating the issue of preaching.
Leander, In response to your second question re:Mat.28:19,20 Jesus was here talking to the faithful 11 on the mountain. The WTBS has eluded to Acts 15:6 in conjunction with Mat.28:19,20 over the years in the publications to insinuate that Jesus gave the command to preach to "all" his disciples.
Another interesting point is the non-use by the society to use the parallel scriptures found at Mark 16:15-19 {he that believes and is baptized will be saved} and Luke 24:47 {repentance for forgiveness of sins would be preached in all the nations.} because the message is too simple and the society has gone beyond the things written.
One last thought. The society often forgets to include verse 18 of that Chapter where Jesus says "ALL authority has been given me in heaven and on earth" because they don't teach Jesus is all powerful till he hands over the Kingdom to his Father mentioned at 1Cor.15:28
i was just thinking that if charles taze russell were alive today he wouldn't even recognize the religion he started.
in fact, many of the things he did are now disfellowshippable offenses.
for instance, he had a christmas tree in the bethel home and he wore a beard.
Justin, Rutherford also taught,excuse me, the faithfulofit and undiscreet slave taught that "Christ Jesus is the Mediator between man and God to bring man into reconciliation with God. The new creature in Christ is not under,nor the offspring of,any covenant that is mediated by Christ Jesus" ....Reconciliation pg.222 1928
As we know his successors later made a 180 degree turnaround and that's the truth ...89W 8/15 pg.30,31
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1867000/1867916.stm .
englishman.
I believe Romans 13:1-4 says it all. I have a younger brother on death row in San Quentin the past 11 years. Murdered a girl in broad daylight at a photo booth in a parking lot,tortured her and to top it off, brought my 2 year old nephew with him when he did it.Got caught 2 years after the murder when the murder was aired on Americas Most Wanted program.A girl friend in Texas where he was hiding turned him in for the reward. High profile trial in Santa Clara County Ca back in 91'.He was raised a witness but never baptized. Tried to murder both our parents prior as well as raped both my little sisters.I'm all for letting the "Superior Authorities" do their job.
todays' study article stated in paragraph 6 "harmonizing the gospel accounts indicates that only after this traitor was gone did jesus institute the memorial of his death.
" paragraph 2 cited the 3 gospel accounts including luke 21:19,20 but conviently excluded verse 21 why?
because immediately after mentioning the loaf and wine jesus stated "but look!
Todays' study article stated in paragraph 6 "Harmonizing the Gospel accounts indicates that only after this traitor was gone did Jesus institute the Memorial of his death." Paragraph 2 cited the 3 gospel accounts including Luke 21:19,20 but conviently excluded verse 21 Why? Because immediately after mentioning the loaf and wine Jesus stated "But look! the hand of my betrayer is WITH ME at the table."
Had Jesus dimissed Judas prior as the Society claims then Jesus would have lied to the apostles. What's your take on this?
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i was wondering if you noticed the society cutting costs.. for example : the books are now printed on cheaper paper and have a soft cover.
also subscriptions are no longer mailed by post but will be brought to you by publishers (cutting cost and upping field service!
to flies in one!).
Ozzie, a recent internal survey at the local KH by the literature servant showed an average of 19 cents per item donated by the congregation over the past 5 years.This included the WT cd libraries and other 'high'dollar items. Seems to me if this is any kind of ind
icator,headquarters is not happy.This is in the southern USA.
Allen
i notice that the wt does a lot of quoting from various sources eg.
for their creation/ecolution and their magazines.. do they ever check whether their sources of information are reliable?.
what does all this quoting `prove', when i can do selective quoting that `proves' fairies exist, give me various books about fairies and i could cut and paste to `prove' fairies exist
The Society has for years been using anonymous quotes such as "one bible commentator states" or "one well known...
" to give weight to the arguement. When they do actually use a persons' name it's often someone who's been dead for a 150 years.
They are also great at directly quoting from works no longer in circulation from the 19th century but fail to date the material(see the book:Isaiah's Prophecy vol.1 pg. 17,19) Makes it virtually impossible for a sincere "bible student" to verify the validity of the material. To 'make sure of all things'.
I find it pretty pathetic that the WBTS uses quotes to support their arguements from the very establishments they love to vilify, and just as absurd, is when they quote from themselves!
Just my thoughts on the matter.
Allen
seeing as i have'nt been to a kingdom hall since at least 3 years ago's memorial, can anyone explain a couple things to me.. 1. i always was under the impression that the wts interpreted the bible as to say that before the generation that saw 1914 pass away, the end will come.
am i crazy?.
2. i heard they've shy'd away from this in the last few years, true?.
Uboat,according to the Divine Purpose publication, published in 1959 These are the stated memorial partakers between 1938-58
1938: 36,732
1939: 29,385
1940: 27,620
1941: 23,989
1942: 24,035
1943: 23,577
1944: 22,684
1945: 22,324
1946: 27,587
1947: 26,449
1948; 25,395
1949: 24,312
1950: 22,723
1951: 21,619
1952: 20,221
1953: 19,108
1954: 17,884
1955: 16,815
1956: 16,302
1957: 15,628
1958: 15,037
Hope you find this useful. I found it interesting there was over a 5263 increase postWW2 in those claiming to be "annointed".Following that there was a loss of several hundred a year. The number of partakers dropping in half in less than 20 years. Now they have practically quit dying for the last 2 decades.
Allen
