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Thoughts

by Wolfy in

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doing the "fade" thing is like a slow, painful torture to me.

i have to do the fade because of my current circumstances (wife being a jw but starting to doubt/both our families very strong jw's).

it makes me angry at having wasted so much time and energy (and money) being a jw.

Wow! Thank you all for responding. It is comforting to know that there are other that feel the same as I do. I haven't been to a meeting in months and I found it very hard to sit there the last time I went. My wife keeps talking about going her being more regular and myself going back. I love my wife so much and she is the love of my life. It's enough to drive a person insane. There is a big family reunion this weekend and she wants to go the the hall. Last time I went I got into an arguement with a MS.:) Yup.It's going to be a long painful road.

I used to really love being a JW. I was a Pioneer and an MS. Dad was an Elder. It's almost like you've been cheated on once you realize the sham that JW's really are. I've been coming to this board for awhile now and read and digest what I have read. I guess a part of me hoped that everyone here was wrong and that the JW's still had it right. That I haven't wasted all those years. Well..I have wasted alot of time and while at first I was very angry I now find myself very sad. Thank you all for your comments and plan on spending some more time on here.

Thanks again

Wolfy

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Thoughts

by Wolfy in

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doing the "fade" thing is like a slow, painful torture to me.

i have to do the fade because of my current circumstances (wife being a jw but starting to doubt/both our families very strong jw's).

it makes me angry at having wasted so much time and energy (and money) being a jw.

Wolfy

Doing the "fade" thing is like a slow, painful torture to me. I have to do the fade because of my current circumstances (wife being a JW but starting to doubt/both our families very strong JW's). It makes me angry at having wasted so much time and energy (and money) being a JW. It becomes so ingrained into your mind and life that I am afraid it will take years before I can get over it(if that is really possible). I get upset with myself if I hear some news report and it automatically comes to mind "oh..it really is the time of the end". Anyone else experience this?

Everyone has a right to their own beliefs and I respect that. People have moved on from being a JW to another religion and have found happiness and peace. I am happy for those who are able to do this. I have grown to distrust religion in general albeit from my experiece as a JW.I consider myself an agnostic.Does anyone else feel like this?What did you do?

I do believe that there are forces other then humans on the earth as I have experienced too many unexplainable things in my life(What those forces are..well I really don't know). I feel like I am changing though and feel a bit lost and disillusioned. Being a JW gives a person many "certainties" in life(JW lif that is) that were somewhat reassuring. For me it was the resurrection. It was comforting to think that if something happened and I died I would probably be back.Now?What will happen when I die?I don't know and that instills alot of fear in me. Being just over 30 I feel like I have wasted the better part of my youth on JWism. Now I am at a cross-roads of sorts in life and I will admit it is scary. Most of the foundation of my belief system has disappeared. I am scared for my family and very sad to see people base their hopes and futures on a false foundation as I once did. I guess the reason why I am writing this post is to see if anyone feels or has felt the same as I do. I'm not sure if everyone will understand my thoughts and what I am trying to say. I have a difficult time putting my thoughts into words at times.:)

I haven't posted much on here but I respect this board and (most) of the posters and comments I read on here. I realize many of you have gone through alot being and leaving the JW's and I would appreciate your thoughts and comments.

Thanks for reading:)

Wolfy

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The only reason I'm glad

by shera in

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the only reason i'm glad i became a jw is(and left)........ i have met many kind people here on these boards.. shera's sappy moment.... .

take care all

Wolfy

Hello Shera!

I have to say I am happy to have you as a friend and I am looking forwards to getting to know others on this board.:)

Wolfy

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Demon Stories - lets hear them?

by hippikon in

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the more i listen to the religion argument the more atheist i become.

their are still some things that are hard to explain and most simply doesnt need explaining who cares?

just because we dont know the explanation doesnt mean there isnt one!.

Wolfy

I have alot of stories that involve myself as well as friends and family. I am of the opinion that there is indeed something that causes strange things to happen. I have posted previously regarding some things that have happened and for which there is no explanation. This is the only reason I consider myself and agnostic and not an atheist. Whether it is demons or not is another matter. What causes these strange things to happen?Dunno..

Example:

My mother was not a JW at the time. Living on the east coast of Canada you see many old homes and communities. My grandparents and my mother and her siblings moved into a very old house. Here's what happened...Rocking chair would rock itself,TV on and off by itself as well as the lights. Sounds coming from the kitchen where it sounded like a party and they would go in and the noise would stop..Nothing there...This one was witnessed by my mother and two of my aunts...My grandmother tried to open the front door but it would not open. Then down the stairs they seen what they called a ghost of a man in sailor clothes. He walked down the stairs and through the door. Well..They all freaked out and my grandmother tried to smash the glass on the door.. The thing she was trying to smash the glass but her arm got thrown back and the object flew out of her hand..Scared them all really bad. BTW turns out the original owner of the house was a Captain of an old fishing boat over 100 years prior..His daughters ran a Brothel out of the house..yeech(My aunt found a story about the house in a ghost stories book about 10 years ago)

My youngest aunt was 4 in that house..She talked about her friend that visited her at night when she went to sleep. My family bascially thought it was just her imagination until they found an old picture in the attic. My then 4yr old aunt got really excited saying that was the lady who used to sit on her bed at night..Freaky eh. BTW my aunts are not JW's.

There is alot of other stuff. Things I have expierenced that when I think about raises the hair on the back of my neck. I do believe there is something that does this stuff but not sure if I can swallow the JW explanation for it..

I realize some things do have a rational explanation. On the other hand there are things that have occurred that I have no way of explaining. Maybe other people can explain these things away but I am unable to. Even to this day I am sensitive to certain things. I used to be really bad. I would pick up a cd or book and get an instant intense headache(sometimes accompanied by a nosebleed) and a very uncomfortable feeling between my shoulder blades. This does not happen so much anymore but it does occur on occasion.

Anyway just my experiences and my families.

Wolfy

My thoughts..

Wolfy

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WHAT DO YOU DO FOR WORK?

by hamptonite21 in

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i work in the lending industry, im an account rep for a wholesale mortgage bank.

royal bank of canada in newyork.

edited by - hamptonite21 on 12 november 2002 22:40:6.

Wolfy

I work as a Computer Repair Technician.Please no computer questions..lol.

Wolfy

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Describe Your "STATUS" In The Congreg...

by minimus in

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if you were to describe what your status was in the congregation, what would it be?

were you viewed as mature?

in "good standing", a pain in the rear?

Wolfy

I was considered a very spiritual young man!

Made MS at 19. I had parts on assembly programs. Dad was the Service Overseer and I used to fill in as a Book Study Conductor. I was a Regular Pioneer and was looked upon as an example..My parents wonder what the hell happened.

I know I wasted most of my youth being a good JW. It really makes me sad and angry. Once spent it's gone but it hurts nontheless.

Now...Very inactive,critical and sporting a goatee...hehe

Wolfy

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DVD Piracy ... too blatant?

by Simon in

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i don't know if anyone is interested in dvd's and dvd writers ... i've got my eye on the new sony dru-500a that supports both competing formats dvd-r/rw and dvd+r/rw (so you can jump in without ending up with a 'betamax').

there is also a new piece of software due called dvdxcopy (http://www.dvdxcopy.com/) that promises to make one click copying of dvd's possible (or at least easier than it was before).. i think hollywood sucks bigtime and will suffer bigtime because they have been ripping us off big time.. dvds are cheaper to produce than tapes and could easily be sold for half the current price while still making a profit.

if they were a reasonable price then there would not be such an incentive to copy things (as it would not be worth the inconvenience).

Wolfy

Hey Simon!

Here in Canada the prices are about $500. A buddy of mine has the A03 and the A04 both by Pioneer. They are a bit glitchy and you have to watch the media that you use with it. The media I can purchase for $69 cdn for a spindle of 25 DVD-R's in Toronto. Not a bad price. My buddy has a friend in England who seems to get a good deal on blanks as well..

I like the Pioneer unit and can attest to it's compatiblity with standalone DVD players. I haven't had the pleasue of using a combo drive but they sound good. You should be able to get a good deal on a combo drive such as the Sony 500 unit. You can find alot of info and DVD writing and hardware at www.cdfreaks.com. Check out the forums...

Hope this helps....

Wolfy

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How About Being Mooned?

by Guest 77 in

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click to this link.. http://www.cutestuff.com/flash_1002/bluemoon.swf

Wolfy

LOL...Remembering mooning the Cong. Overseers hot daughter on the way home from an assembly....She was in a car with her fiance.(She was kinda wild anyways..Her fiance looked shocked..hehe)..Had our butt-cheeks against the passenger window as we drive past...ahh...memories.

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Were You Obsessed With Demons?

by minimus in

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from my youngest days, i remember being told that we should be careful because of the demons.

they are everywhere, just waiting to pounce on us.

we were told to stay away from windchimes since they "attract" the demons.

Wolfy

Grew up in Nova Scotia where there are alot of very old homes. I know people don't believe the 'stories' about demons(or whatever they are) ;but some very weird and scary stuff happened to me as well as my friends. That's why I am an agnostic..I believe that there is something out there but I am not sure what it is

Example

1/I saw my best friends eyes roll back and getting slammed up against the wall...(Getting goose bumps remembering it)

2/My friends grandparents were not JW's. His Grandfather was a Warlock. Found his cloak and some of his belongings. They would not burn..Poured gasoline on them...No effect...Had to bury them.

3/I would pick up items in the house and get an intense(migraine like)headache accompained by a nose-bleed.

4/My father was an Elder and along with a couple of Bro. from Bethel they went in and removed some objects from the house....To this day he does not want to discuss it. My friend said alot of freaky stuff happened...Rooms turned red...Light bulbs burst.etc..I had talked to my Father about my problems with the JW's. He said that the things he had seen and experienced convinced him that there are Demons and that the truth was right.

5/Watching my friends Dad trying to take a floppy disc out of his Mac. He would eject it and go to grab it and it would fly back in...Numerous times...He grabbed a Bible and started praying...The disc came out then.(flew out actually..almost hit him in the face)
Lots more stuff and not just with my friend.....

While I am still technically 'in' I don't believe very much of what is shoved down your throat anymore. In spite of my disbelief in what the Society teaches I have had experiences in my youth that scared the hell out of me. Was it Demons? I really don't know...All I know really is that this stuff really happened to me...I remember being so scared I just about pissed my pants....(I am getting a really creepy feeling just writing this)

I know everyone will either flame me or discount what I say and that it up to you. I am not sure if it was Demons persay but something was responsible.....

My $0.02

WoLfY

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What's the one thing you miss about the WTS?

by Naeblis in

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there are times when ilook back fondly on my days in the witnesses, especially when i think on the congregation get togethers we would have every once in awhile (not too often) people from our hall and sometimes others would show up (not too many) and good times were had by all.

this is how the schedule usually went.. 8pm: arrive at the community centre.

8:05pm: scope the room.

Wolfy

Haven't been here in awhile...btw..almost out now:)

What I don't miss
1/Getting a lecture as to why I didn't comment at the meeting.
2/When are you going to get baptized?
3/When I did get baptized the PO wife calls my Dad and says I did not go completely under the water. They have it on tape. She says I should get re-baptized..b****hit.
4/When pioneering how come I don't have any Bible Studies yet.
5/One of the other pioneers faking his hours...Get's away with it too
6/Being a MS as the age of 18 and being hauled into a meeting because they are concerned about my apperance..I had started wearing a cool leather bracelet...Had to remove it
7/Taking the field service arrangement and no one shows
8/Being screwed out of "Higher Education"
9/Wasting 25 years in the org and feeling like an idiot when I realize that it is BS
10/Seeing how screwed up alot of the people are...but blindly follow along with every word messing up their kid's lives too
11/The hypocrisy...The PO was a drunk and his kids were for the lack of a better word "evil"
12/The embarrasment of going out door to door
13/The same boring talks and meetings...I always fall asleep.
Lots of other things I don't miss...

I do miss
1/Some of the people actually did care and were there when you needed help
2/Mooning the PO's daughter on the way home from the assembly
3/Quick Builds..Got to meet alot of sisters..hehe
4/A sense of community ...You felt like it was your family of sorts..At least for me in the early years
5/Recreation together...Used to crash weddings...lol
6/Sitting at the top of the stadium and checking out the sisters with binoculars...
7/Going to Tim's for a 45 min break on Sat. mornings..
Probably some others here too...I guess there always will be things I will miss but there is too much negative..If I do go to a meeting which is rare I feel tense and angry. Is this normal?Nah

Just my thoughts

Wolfy

"Always tell the truth. That way, you don't have to remember what you said."
-Mark Twain