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  Big News or rumor!

  by Burger Time in

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  a friend just informed me that the c/o in his hall will be instructing the elders that anyone with a child in college will be stripped of privileges in the hall.

  i am not sure if this is true this is just what i was told.

  it could be that it is only a campaign directed at him as he has some ties to ex-jw's and some how got found out.

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  worf

  Ok.

  Thanks for the clarification.

  Worf
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  Big News or rumor!

  by Burger Time in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend just informed me that the c/o in his hall will be instructing the elders that anyone with a child in college will be stripped of privileges in the hall.

  i am not sure if this is true this is just what i was told.

  it could be that it is only a campaign directed at him as he has some ties to ex-jw's and some how got found out.

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  Burger Time,

  Interesting. I have a brother-in-law who is a ministerial servant in Monroe North Carolina.

  I guess he better not even think of going to college , to better himself.

  Worf
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  Big News or rumor!

  by Burger Time in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend just informed me that the c/o in his hall will be instructing the elders that anyone with a child in college will be stripped of privileges in the hall.

  i am not sure if this is true this is just what i was told.

  it could be that it is only a campaign directed at him as he has some ties to ex-jw's and some how got found out.

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  Besides other sources on this board who had already heard of this, this information has been confirmed by a current ministerial servant who was on the conference call on Saturday evening: Any elder or ministerial servant who is going to college will no longer qualify. And if their children are going to college, they will no longer qualify, and if they speak of college in a positive way, they will no longer qualify.

  Amazing! WTS continues to prove to be the cult it really is.

  Worf
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  Your kids are doomed.

  by sammielee24 in

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  i listened in to the conf call tonight.

  one thing that i got from it was that apparently (and the wording might be a little wrong) is that elders or ms will be removed if they are going to college or university.

  a person encouraging another to go to college will be removed as well.

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  I was also on the call tonight and the current ministerial servant who called in confirmed that elders and ministerial servants will be removed if they or

  their children go to college, or if they promote college or speak of it in a positive way. Such nonsense! What more will it take for those still in to

  realize that: The wts is nothing but a dangerous cult!

  Worf
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  Three Questions

  by Farkel in

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  once a king decided that if he knew the answer to three questions, he would be the master of life itself.. when is the best time?.

  who is the most important person?.

  the most important person is always the one you are with.

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  Farkel,

  Good One! And so true.

  Worf
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  JWs lie with such decadence

  by 83501nwahs in

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  i was just at roscoe's in long beach when the assembly crowd with their badges on came in.

  i decided that they must want to be approached since they were advertizing their witnesshood on their clothing.

  nothing could be further from the truth.

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  Theodore Jaracz blatantly lied to me. I have written proof of his lie. As an elder I saw firsthand how the other elders lied constantly.

  Worf
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  Were Some Bodies of Elders Secret Societies unto Themselves ?

  by flipper in

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  witnessing unjust treatment by elders and seeing others unjustly treated by such - had a big impact on me seeing through the facade that was the organization called jehovah's witnesses.

  being raised in it 44 years i observed many times congregation elders operating their crew of " fellow elders " like a good old boys club in which although it was called a " body " of elders ; nevertheless still one elder dominated others and the lesser elders fell into line with what the " chief " or prime elder said would go down.

  when leaving the organization in late 2003 - i questioned my own father, an elder for over 50 years about the unjust treatment i had received at the hand of such men.

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  WT Wizard: Right on point. .

  White Dove: Yes. They will know who I am at that point if they don't already know. But thats okay. Wow! How could those so-called elders have been so cruel in your situation? I would have been just as pissed off as you were. All of us have so many amazing stories of our experiences in the borg.

  Worf
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  Were Some Bodies of Elders Secret Societies unto Themselves ?

  by flipper in

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  witnessing unjust treatment by elders and seeing others unjustly treated by such - had a big impact on me seeing through the facade that was the organization called jehovah's witnesses.

  being raised in it 44 years i observed many times congregation elders operating their crew of " fellow elders " like a good old boys club in which although it was called a " body " of elders ; nevertheless still one elder dominated others and the lesser elders fell into line with what the " chief " or prime elder said would go down.

  when leaving the organization in late 2003 - i questioned my own father, an elder for over 50 years about the unjust treatment i had received at the hand of such men.

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  Thanks Mr. Flipper.

  The experiences I had which started me on the road out of the borg are similar to what happened to Richard Rawe and his wife in the late 60's.

  I feel that what happened to me is a story (true) that needs to be told, and I am slowly putting it together.

  BTW, your threads and post are always so insightful and interesting. I read them all the time.

  Thanks.

  Worf
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  Were Some Bodies of Elders Secret Societies unto Themselves ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  witnessing unjust treatment by elders and seeing others unjustly treated by such - had a big impact on me seeing through the facade that was the organization called jehovah's witnesses.

  being raised in it 44 years i observed many times congregation elders operating their crew of " fellow elders " like a good old boys club in which although it was called a " body " of elders ; nevertheless still one elder dominated others and the lesser elders fell into line with what the " chief " or prime elder said would go down.

  when leaving the organization in late 2003 - i questioned my own father, an elder for over 50 years about the unjust treatment i had received at the hand of such men.

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  TLR,

  I appreciate your interest. I'm still writing it and I haven't yet decided on a title that will best describe it. I'm also very busy with some other ventures in my life. But as I progress, I will keep all of my friends here on JWD informed.

  Worf
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  Were Some Bodies of Elders Secret Societies unto Themselves ?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  witnessing unjust treatment by elders and seeing others unjustly treated by such - had a big impact on me seeing through the facade that was the organization called jehovah's witnesses.

  being raised in it 44 years i observed many times congregation elders operating their crew of " fellow elders " like a good old boys club in which although it was called a " body " of elders ; nevertheless still one elder dominated others and the lesser elders fell into line with what the " chief " or prime elder said would go down.

  when leaving the organization in late 2003 - i questioned my own father, an elder for over 50 years about the unjust treatment i had received at the hand of such men.

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  So did you notice this attitude in congregations of each body of elders doing things the way they wanted ?

  Absolutely!

  Here are some gems from the body of elders that I was on:

  They told a brother (who was not even an MS or Elder), that he could not bring the son he had from an adulterous relationship, to the KH. They told him to just deal with his son "through the mail", that is: send money to the childs "worldly" mother to help financially, but don't bring him around to the KH. This edict was told to him a few years after the adultery, a case in which the decision had been to forgive him and not DF him. This brother was already back in "good standing" in the congo.

  Another gem: They had a secret meeting in which they decided to remove me as an elder. When they informed me they refused to discuss the situation with me even though there is a WTS letter that specifically directs elders to discuss the matter in detail with any brother whom they want to delete from being an elder. (Side note: Every Gb member,about 10 total, that I contacted personally went along with this injustice, including people like Daniel Sydlik, and of course Jaracz, Lett, Herd and a host of other officials like JR Brown and Robert Pevy, and David Sinclair, Pellechia).

  Another gem: This elder body told the JW wife of the above mentioned brother that children born out of wedlock have no hope of life in the "kingdom". (The events described are included in the book I am in the process of writing).

  The above circumstances started me on the road "Out" of the borganization.

  Worf