Posts by worf

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Notes From Hawaii-Gerrit Losch Talk

by Save My Soul in

a (conditional) friend sent me some notes from the talk in hawaii.

gerrit was the keynote speaker.

this occurred 'immediately after the tribulation of those days' (matthew 24:29), referring to the destruction of babylon the great.

worf

· " There will be an international statement or situation where people will cry out 'Peace and Security' ( 1/15/03 Watchtower). This has not yet occurred. We don't know if it will be a desire for peace or a belief that peace has been achieved."

When Gerald Ford became US President way back in the 1970's after the Nixon Watergate Scandal, one of the first things he cried out was this statement: "Peace and Security". This was on the front cover of every major newspaper.

I remember this statement as it was featured on the news channels also. It expressed a desire for peace as well as a belief that peace had been achieved.

This occurred at the same time as our wt convention here in New York at Aqueduct Race Track. The first speaker at the convention on the day this statement was made held up a copy of the headline and said" Did you see this mornings paper?! He then went on to rile everyone up about the so-called end of the world. In fact, the wt society continued to use that very statement as a prediction based on the scripture in Thessalonians.

That was over 30 years ago since that "Prominent" cry of peace and security and no end of the world has come.

So Gerrit Losch is wrong by saying that such a cry "has not yetoccurred". And again, no "end of the world", has come.

god and the "holy spirit" just keep on making mistakes.

The borg is a joke.

Worf

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How did you save your marriage while leaving?

by AlyMC in

the other thread (opposite in nature) is really touching and i enjoyed reading everyone's experiences.

i saw a few people who were still in share how scared they were of that outcome, so i thought positive stories of how you managed to save your marriage while leaving the organization might be nice.

so, what is your story?

worf

I have always been glad to hear of couples whose marriage did not break up

because of a husband or wife realizing the Honest truth about the wt organization.

And as Ronin 1 knows, my experience is the opposite. 6 months after I stopped attending meetings,

I came home one day, and my wife had left me without warning or discussion. Her things were gone, some of our

possessions were gone, and I did not see her again until divorce court 3 years later.

Thats okay though, because after we got married, she turned out to be a pompous a$$ pioneer, full of pride,

who thought she was above everyone else.

Thats the way it is sometimes.

As an FYI, Ronin 1 is my sister. . Hey Ronin 1 !!!!

Worf

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Assembly Days Ahead

by WTWizard in

jw
friends

now that we are past the reject jesus party, many of us have those big boasting sessions (the one-day) and great boasting sessions (the two day) ahead.

these are a bigger waste of time, since they take the whole day (or two days) instead of just the evening.. then, there is the grand boasting session (three days) during summer.

some will be starting in late may, when children are still in school.

worf

Hi WT Wizard,

The last "Grand Boasting Session" I went to was also in 2001 at the Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale Long Island New York.

I was there for one day with another ex-jw who drove all the way from Pennsylvania. We were there as protesters with large signs that

exposed the wt UN Scandal, the Pedophile Scandal, and their False Prophecies Scams. He and I were there all day.

My first experience as an "apostate" in public. Loved every minute of it.

Interestingly, a good number of jdumbs actually came up to us and asked us what it was all about and

we had conversations with them where they at least listened.

I felt more refreshed that day than from any convention in the 39 years of being a part of the borg.

Worf

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Memorial invitations didn't work in my congo. Did they work in yours?

by outofthebox in

jw
friends

so, the people in my congo expended hours and hours distributing the invitations, but the attendance was the same as always (actually a little less than other years).

how about your congo?

-ootn

worf

The memorial was this weekend????

I guess my Klingon Blood Wine made me forget.

Worf

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007 special Easter message= Jesus was just a man who died! No miricles!

by Witness 007 in

happy easter sunday!!

so nice to have holidays!

on cable t.v the've been having non stop jesus documentaries which are better then anything from the watchtower society!

worf

Thats right. Jesus was just a man who died. He did try to teach people

that they did not need any leaders, religious or otherwise, and he did try to help free

them from the bondage of their bicameral thinking. But thats all.

He was no god. He was no son of a god. Just a man.

The religions that have been built around him are frauds designed to

keep people in fear and make them think that they need priests, pastors, ministers,

popes etc.

Jesus was just a man. Who died. And was not resurrected.

Worf

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Do you believe the FDS is God's spirit directed organization???

by cognac in

jw
friends

ummm, hi, no!!!.

how do you get around that question without lying???

i want to get some people out of this org while i'm still in but don't want to lie either....

worf

NO !

WORF.

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I WANT A STAR TREK REPLICATOR!

by journey-on in

jw
friends

i hate cooking....i hate everything about it from planning meals, to grocery shopping, to loading the bags into my car,.

to unloading the bags and carrying them into the house, to putting the groceries away, to cooking, to cleaning up, to.

unloading the damn dishwasher!.

worf

There was an article on the MSN network recently that discussed technology that is being worked on right now.

The article gave predictions of how many years it would take before the general public would benefit from the various products.

It predicted that holo-technology will be available by 2016! Just 8 years from now.

The article did not mention replicators, but I'm sure that if that word is put into a search engine, you would find that someone is working on it.

Worf

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Time is nothing but a Ilusion!!! Here is why....

by Blackboo in

from where did existence come from?

in what period of time did existence appear???

wait a minute...how can existence come from nothing...when you cannot get nothing from nothing?

worf

Blackboo,

You are correct in your view of existence.

Existence is axiomatic and requires no further explanation.

Existence simply exists. It always has and always will exist.

For anyone to say that existence at one time did not exist, is a contradiction.

Existence cannot not exist.

Good post. Interesting too.

Worf

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JW woman in trouble

by lisa_82069 in

i am not a jw and only know what my friend has told me about the faith.

i saw this website and decided to see if i could get another opinion on this matter.

during the course of my business, i have met and become friends with a troubled woman who was born into a jw family.

worf

White Dove,

Good. Tell him.

Metsman,

There is no way we would just sit back and let you minimize the cruelty that the so-called elders have put on this lady.

Additionally, your precious elders are not spirit-appointed, holy or otherwise, and not appointed by any god.

They were put in their so-called position by men, and a crappy lot at that.

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Changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the WBTS.

by jefferywhat in

i posted something similar on a different thread but it was blissfully ignored and i really think its worth a discussion.

leolola touched on this in another thread and that is of the changes to alot of the eschatological beliefs of the wbts.

a) 1935- no longer cut off for fds .

worf

Pahpa,

Right on target. Thats exactly what has happened.

Worf