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Iranian Murderer To Be Thrown Off Cliff in a Sack

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iranian murderer to be thrown off cliff in a sack

an iranian murderer is to be executed by being thrown off a cliff in a sack.. an iranian newspaper says if the man from the north-western city of mashhad survives, he will be hanged.. the carpenter was convicted of raping and killing his 16-year-old nephew.. the daily express says his nephew worked as an assistant at his shop.. the man has 20 days to appeal against his sentence.

thats a variation on a theme.

Xander

people owning guns to protect their defenseless families and homes

Perhaps hijacking the thread, perhaps not...(after all, the theme seems to be 'unconventional' methods to crime prevention/punishment):

Gun ownership would do a LOT more to curb crime in the US if law abiding citizens were actually allowed to, oh, I dunno, USE THEM.

You aware we have laws against setting traps in your house? Yes, that's right, if a burglar breaks in your house, murders your family, burns down half the building, and on his way out steps in a trap and gets his leg snared - he can SUE YOU! (From jail, probably, but he CAN STILL SUE YOU FOR THE TRAP!)

This is ridiculous.

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Blood Part 01 - The History of the Blood Doctrine

by JanH in

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the history of the blood doctrine.

since a jehovah's witness (hereafter: jw) who refuses blood bases his or her decision on trust in the wisdom and divine leadership of the watch tower society (hereafter: wts), it will be instructive to look at the record of the wts in dealing with medical questions.

the current application of certain bible texts, notably acts 15:28,29, to support a blood prohibition for christians was not shared by its founder, charles taze russell.

Xander

Yeah, part 2, c'mon!

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DANGER!! DO NOT PUSH THIS BUTTON!!

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edited by - xander on 18 july 2002 14:17:39.

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Ehhh? What? It's teh funnAy!

Oh, c'mon, it's funny...

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Did John Denver hate the Witnesses?

by writerpen in

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i remember hearing stories as a kid that john denver would ask all the witnesses present at his concerts to stand.

and, then after they stood, he would play the national anthem.

any truth to this?

Xander

he asked all JWs to stand, played the national anthem, then asked to leave

That IS an urban legend, just found the probable source of it:

And then a very good friend told us that JD did not dislike JWs. He said that after a JW district convention in Denver, CO, a JD concert was scheduled for that evening. The concert had nothing to do with the convention earlier that day. As the stage crew began to setup things, curious Jehovah's Witnesses lingered after the convention (I too would linger and investigate whether I could purchase tickets).
Apparently JD noticed the problem of having people without tickets not leaving the arena and on mike, asked 'all Jehovah's Witnesses to vacate their seats and leave the facility'. Something to the effect of, 'Are there any JWs in the audience? Would you please stand? Now would you please leave?'

And, from USENET:

From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Does John really hate....
Newsgroups: alt.fan.john-denver
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Date: 1996/11/22
I remember John on a "Tonight Show." He sang an impressive redition of "It's About Time." There was nothing out of line on this show!!!
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From: EdOlczyk ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Does John really hate....
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Date: 1996/12/15
I agree, that was the finest rendition that I've ever heard. Afterward, the audience gave him a STANDING ovation for about two minutes.

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215 killed by Shipman , but why?

by sleepy in

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a goverment enquiry has just eastablished that harold shipman killed at least 215 people.. but they have yet to discover why.in fact why do people do such things?what motivates , what to everyone seams like a sane normal person, to do such things?again why do people abuse children, or why do people lead a religion that is so obivously flawed yet requires people to give their lives under certain conditions (blood etc)?.

the leads me to wonder just how well developed the human brain is.we marvel at its ability to many things, but is it all we think it is?often conflict exists in us when we desire to do things yet realise this could be harmful to others.for some reason we consider it right not to harm others and wrong to do so.animals for example seam to lack such reasoning power.but we have not fully rid ourselves of such basic urges.some humans have a harder time than others in doing what is right.. prehaps as time goes on such people will become rarer , as often they are not atractive to others as mates, and such quirks will dissapear almost completely from humans.. trouble is this reasoning is dangerously close to what the nazis were hoping to achieve.. so is there another way to rid society of such people , or indeed should we?.

also why do you think people do such bad things to each other?

Xander

The leads me to wonder just how well developed the human brain is.We marvel at its ability to many things, but is it all we think it is?

See, I've always maintained sentience is an evolutionary dead-end.

No, really. Think about it.

Only the fittest lions with the best genetic code survive to the next generation because lions lame from some genetic mistake don't get mated with. Lions born with defects that prevent them from being incredible hunters won't get a chance to reproduce.

If a lion takes another mate? He kills her offspring by other males (obviously, they were inferior genetic stock).

With no 'sympathy' or 'pity' to weigh them down, all other animals will continue to 'cull the heard', so to speak, by having genetic errors fail to reproduce.

Not humans, though. 'Sympathy' and 'pity' can cause mismatches were one person with a healthy genetic code has kids with somone who doesn't. Or, people with genetic related disabilities having kids with each other.

While not judging any such behavior (we are, after all, all sentient and deserving of happiness), it does pretty much put a stop to human evolution. In the animal world, only the fittest get a chance to pass their genetic material on to the next generation. Humans don't work that way.

as often they are not atractive to others as mates, and such quirks will dissapear almost completely from humans

And, see, THIS is the problem right here. Assuming what is wrong with their heads is genetic, they WILL find mates and pass on their 'broken' genetic material. Either someone who feels pity for their case or someone with self-esteem problems who continues to get in abusive relationships.

(And, in any case, even if it ISN'T genetic, and just learned behavior, if they stay out of jail long enough to raise kids from the resulting union, that kid will end up just as warped as them)

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Iranian Murderer To Be Thrown Off Cliff in a Sack

by ISP in

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iranian murderer to be thrown off cliff in a sack

an iranian murderer is to be executed by being thrown off a cliff in a sack.. an iranian newspaper says if the man from the north-western city of mashhad survives, he will be hanged.. the carpenter was convicted of raping and killing his 16-year-old nephew.. the daily express says his nephew worked as an assistant at his shop.. the man has 20 days to appeal against his sentence.

thats a variation on a theme.

Xander

jes' waitin' ta bite yaw dewty little balls off for dinna.................

OMG! How did you get the dialect down so perfect? You either 1) Watch a HELL OF A LOT of that show or 2) Have some kind of 'English to Croc Hunter' translator.

If #2, I'd love a copy of said!

That = teh funnAy

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Did John Denver hate the Witnesses?

by writerpen in

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i remember hearing stories as a kid that john denver would ask all the witnesses present at his concerts to stand.

and, then after they stood, he would play the national anthem.

any truth to this?

Xander

There was some folks who actually went to a John Denver concert and he did no such thing.

If you stop and think about it, it is a little unlikely a performer could do that in the US and not have a well-known (or, at least, known outside the JWs) scandal around it.

they (E,W, & F) couldn't levitate (float around) and perform their magic tricks (because Jehovah's spirit took away their power to perform their tricks).

I never heard that about E, W, & F, but regularly regarding witches and fortune tellers. You know, the group of friends go to get their fortune read on a lark, the fortune reader can't get a reading, and asks if their is a witness among them for her to leave.

Yup, that's right. Jah's loving spirit at work. He'll let you be raped and murdered, but if you try and have your fortune read, he'll stop that right cold.

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Will religion ever be banned?

by haujobbz in

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i was asking because look at all the problems religion are causing :september 11,middle east crisis,waco disaster,clashes in ireland,paedophiles priests,suicide bombings,papal system etc.but think if masses of people protested it my not ban religion completely,but it could make a start to banning it.but the trouble again is that a lot of people want religion even if it is full of @*~t,yeh and why is it that people know theres problems in there religion but wont take a stand,why are religious people are such cowards to the truth.saying that though if i managed to get say jws banned from preaching i would be fulfilling bible prophecy mmm how cool lol

Xander

we are any smarter than those who will come after us

I never said that. I said, we were the smartest era to date.

Alot of what we think is the "truth" will soon be shown yo be false

Ah, now, see, that's exactly incorrect. The thing that DOES make us so different from previous generations is that we are MUCH slower to accept something as 'unfailingly true'. Indeed, accepting some new discovery today as 'unfailingly true' is damn near impossible - even when it IS true - the process takes so VERY long.

The only incentive the Gospel writers had to write the Gospels was to preserve the truth that they knew happened

Uh-no? They were trying to start their own religion?

Name for me one person who died for what they knew to be a lie

1) We have no documented proof from anyone other than christians (who, again, have an agenda for lying) that any of the gospel writers (or ANY of the new testament writers, for that matter) died for their beliefs, or were even persecuted. Again, we have ONLY THEIR WORD FOR IT, and they have an obvious agenda for lying.

2) As to your question? Oh, I dunno, David Koresh? Marshall Applewhite (leader of the Heaven's Gate cult)? Jim Jones (People's Temple cult)? Hitler? Need I go on?

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