has to be for me--- "Can't Help Falling In Love With You" and "Suspiscious Minds"
XW
OMG- forgot about "In the Ghetto" -love that one too
Edited by - xenawarrior on 16 August 2002 18:26:19
elvis is the king baby!
it is hard to believe that 25 years have passed since elvis' death.
most his songs are "dated" imho, however, his "style" truly lives on.
has to be for me--- "Can't Help Falling In Love With You" and "Suspiscious Minds"
XW
OMG- forgot about "In the Ghetto" -love that one too
Edited by - xenawarrior on 16 August 2002 18:26:19
vivamus' post reminded me of some of my shunning experiences and one i had recently.
twice i have been doing yard work in the front of my house and my "annointed" jw mother and her car group have pulled up and parked right there in front of my house.
they get out, dressed up, bookbags, literature.
I'd say- next time- have the hose and soak them all!!! After all, if "you" aren't "there", then the hose that just soaked them isn't really there either and they are then not really wet - right? ;)
XW
my colleague sixofnine suggested the other day that i write a book for xjws about going and getting into college.
i really like the idea and thought what i would do is have an ask and answer thread about college to give me some ideas about what it is folks might want to know.
so ask away and i'll do my best to answer your questions.
A suggestion for those with children. My daughter is 14 and she has already taken the ACT's twice. And she will take them again this year. Kids can take them- it not only helps them with lots of things like self-esteem and their current studies- but it also gets them prepared when it actually means something. They won't be so intimidated by the test and will be very familiar with the types of questions etc.
XW
jay, .
i know you hate this kind of stuff but i would not miss this oppty for the world!.
happy birthday honey!!!!!!.
Happy Birthday Jay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope you are having lots of fun- we miss you!!!
XW
well, i just got in from a long weekend spent in dallas, tx.. there wuz an 'apostafest' gathering held there - and it wuz a blast!.
i think an informal head count would put total attendance at around 35 - 40 folks there.
(no one was designated as 'attendant', so no official count was taken.).
HAHAHAHA-
Sorry WT- about the bruise on your ass !!!
XW
...and i have nobody to celebrate it with.
i wish i could make a big deal about it here but i don't post enough... anywho, remind me to kill the baker and to leave joseph in his cell.
lol, a little post jw humor.
Happy Birthday Preston!!!!!!!!!!
xenawarrior
I don't post much here (chat alot) but felt the need to say something about this one.
IMHO- one of the reasons you will see so much "fluff" coming from this group is that they are finally able to have fluff in their lives without someone reprimanding them for it. Think about it- especially those who were raised in this ridiculous religion- how often were you truly allowed to be anything other than very serious? Growing up, were you allowed to be silly on a daily basis? Were you encouraged to? I doubt it. No, sit still and be quiet in the hall, don't talk to this person, read your study materials-whatever. It was all about rules and repression.
So when folks finally leave this WTS crap behind, this freedom and the feeling that it's okay to have it and deserve it; gradually emerges. There are so many here that are celebrating their ability to simply speak their mind without some hammer coming down on their head. I can imagine it's almost a giddiness inside. So out comes the "fluff" and the silliness. That is a very good thing. Who was able to speak so freely about something as inconsequential as underwear- much less have the time to give any thought to it? Must study, Must go to meeting, must meet the requirements. Let folks have their fluff. It's a valuable release. Setting up another place for it IMHO is like saying to them once again- THAT doesn't belong here-take it elsewhere. Isn't that the message they've been receiving all along. It's not "appropriate"??
The fluff also balances out the negative stuff that comes out of all of this- the sadness, the regret, the anger, the guilt and for many- the lonliness.
(((((((Farkel)))))))))---please don't take what I'm saying as directed towards what you have said- I understand where you are coming from. This was not meant for you. What you have and are doing is a great thing and please continue to do it. It's invaluable.
One- I don't know you but reading what you have written in this thread gives me the impression that somehow the length of time you have been posting here makes you more of something (?) than others. Isn't that the same kind of thinking that goes on in the WTS? And remember your handle- ONE. You are one out of many here and this grand place fills more needs than just one's. I agree with what others have said here- if you see a post that is clear it's a "fluff" post- pass it on by- pretty simple. And if you happen into a post that you didn't know was fluff- it will be quite obvious in the first couple of sentences and then all it takes is a click on your "back" button to get out an move on. To expect that things should be shuffled to make it easier for you to read what you want to- wow- tell me where that happens in this world- my bags are packed-that's where I want to live!
Heaven made a very good point- someone participated in her "fluff" thread and found the courage they didn't have before that. That is huge. And noone can tell when a post of any kind, be it serious or fluff is going to help another on their journey of healing. All of it is needed.
Okay, someone get me off this soapbox.
My 135 cents
xenawarrior
ok guys and dolls, american football will start in a couple months, so who is the team you pull for?.
ok i know i will get shit for this but go cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i love the dallas cowboys
"Gopher, oh Gopher----cmere.............
What do you get when you cross a pig and a Minnesota Viking?
Nothing...... there are some things even pigs won't do........
Besides, Randy Moss might decide he just doesn't feel like playing.........
Go Pack !!!!!!!!!!
XW----- of the Green and Gold Class............
""did you know that leading shrinks have said that the best way to recover from being a jw is to not look at yourself as an ex-witness?
what leading shrink(s)?
where is this written?
""Did you know that leading shrinks have said that the best way to recover from being a JW is to not look at yourself as an ex-witness?"
Who said this?
What leading shrink(s)?
Where is this written?
Back up what you say now.........................................
~XW- needing verification of "facts"
hi wholewheat,.
when i first came onto this board i was shocked at the language too.
please go to my member page and read starting on the second page, so there are rules of conduct, what rule of conduct exists here, too much hatred in here, get over it.
One thing to understand Wholewheat is that; by nature- this is a support board. As you can see, many of the folks here have been very traumatized by their exposure to JW. There are many for whom the wounds run deep. And you will find people in various different stages of the healing process and that is a very natural and acceptable thing if one is willing to be empathetic about healing. Maybe if you understand that you will have more compassion for each poster. You have no idea what they have been through, the wounds it's created or the scars that remain. Being here helps them to heal.
One of the major stages of grieving and healing is anger. And how long a person stays in that stage is an individual thing. "This too shall pass" Being self righteous towards people who have suffered only adds insult to injury. Who are you to know what they have endured or whether they are entitled to their anger? Do not sit in judgement, rather, let folks heal in their own way.
You seem to have a view of how people should be behaving after leaving the JW's. Who put you in that position and how the hell would you know? I'm sure there are psychologists out there that are still trying to sort through it all. Like layers on an onion, the betrayal and abuse runs deep. I don't think there is a right or wrong way to handle that kind of thing. So stop with the preaching. If you are truly here to understand then stop judging and try truly understanding. If not, there is no way anyone will believe any sincerity on your part.
You made a comment about this being a good thread for you. Although I'm glad that you are more comfortable now- I have news for you: This board isn't for YOU. It's not here to make you comfortable-it's here for everyone. If you are offended by something you read here-basically that is YOUR problem- don't read it then. The stuff that is spewed here is also not about you. Unless you were there to beat on "y" as a child or lied to "z" for most of their life or took "d's" childhood away or did this or that to anyone here who is talking about it- IT"S NOT ABOUT YOU. So own your own "stuff" and let others deal with theirs in their own way. Noone needs your judgement and you've seen what happens when you give it.
And to be real honest- I'm back to "the pot calling the kettle black" again with you. You seem to be fine as long as things are dealt with in a manner in which you find acceptable and as soon as they aren't you turn ugly in behavior yourself. If you wish to hold others to certain standards you best be ready to reach them yourself.
My 145 cents
Peace~
~XW