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  Poll--How Many Believe In God, Do Not Believe or Are Not Sure Of His Existence?

  by minimus in

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  i believe in god but i'm not sure of anything....what about you?.

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  OneGenTwoGroups

  I'm too old for imaginary friends.

  Gotta love me some people that are JWs then "wake-up" to discover the real Jesus. Beam me up Scotty.
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  Contradictory geneology of Jesus

  by rebel8 in

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  so i'm reading another carl sagan book and he seems to invariably find a way to slam j-dubs in each one.

  (i can't say i blame him.).

  anyway, in this one he discusses the fact that the gospels give contradictory geneologies of jesus--differing lines back to david from joseph, and a different number of generations.

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  OneGenTwoGroups

  If you look at some of those generations as two groups that overlap, it all makes perfect sense.
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  Knorr's wife

  by lenaga in

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  i need a photo of his wife nathan knorr.

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  can somebody help me?.

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  OneGenTwoGroups

  I knew her really well when I was Bethel in the late 80s early 90s. She was fun and spunky.
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  I am doing Fab!!!!!!!!

  by KateWild in

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  hey everyone,.

  well me, fraz and laika had a little meetup before we went on holiday.....it was great to meet fraz for the first time.

  our hols were teriffic and i have enjoyed dating too.

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  OneGenTwoGroups

  What's with all this "don't go to the KH" horseshit? If going to a KH can restore an xJWs faith in the GB, good riddance. There is one less idiot in the xJW community.

  But seriously, it's called working the system. It's called working a fade. It's called best case scenario exit, which some people need. Some of us have true believing children, marriage mates and feeble parents that we are needing to give their best chance at exiting the cult as well.

  I still go out in service (minimally yes), do sound control, make most of the meetings. And I've been and atheist for almost 3 years.

  It's your life KateWild, not the life of a myopic JWN member, do what you need to do.
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  Solving the Problem of a Generation that never ends ...

  by fulltimestudent in

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  luke 21 is a difficult text to interpret.

  and jesus' failed prediction that the end would occur in the lifetime of those who heard him speak, makes the whole thing border on farce.. recall what he said:.

  30 when they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near.. 31 even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of god is near.. 32 truly i tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.. 33 heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.. .

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  OneGenTwoGroups

  SAHS - I believe that the end did occur in the lifetime of those who heard him speak

  This is only possible if "Jesus recorded words" of the prophecy are cherry picked. Of course, you've already heard this a thousand times I'm sure.
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  the new exjw stars of youtube... discuss

  by friendaroonie in

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  since the creation of a few youtube channels i spend enormous amounts of time watching them.

  they have basically replaced my activity on jwn and watching kelly and michael in the morning.

  there are quite a few issues and implications that result from this trend.

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  OneGenTwoGroups

  If a channel that is xJW is Christian, they might as well be Scientologists or Mormons. Spouting a different form of superstition is of no use to me. Main stream Christianiy is what oils the gears of fundamentalism, like JWs.
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  Sorry posters JWs leaders will not "change" 1914 or 144,000 "literal to figurative "doctrine

  by booker-t in

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  i actually called bethel a few weeks ago and i was shocked that i actually got thru to the writing dept.

  i was abit nervous but i asked the jw writer if there was going to be a change in doctrine.

  i thought he was going to immediately hang up on me thinking "apostate caller" but he was actually nice and we talked for a while.

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  OneGenTwoGroups

  The GB could announce 1914 is no longer signifcant and 144k means nothing and

  .... most JWs wouldn't even flinch.

  We would laugh, high five each other and have a grand old time. But, JWs think like JWs, meaning they won't think shit about it. I know no member of my family would even care.

  These people are already ok with two overlapping generations is one generation. The specifics of their doctrines mean nothing to them.

  Some will even be estatic about "the new light" and sign up to pioneer, decide to get baptized, apply to Bethel, etc. etc.
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  LONGEVITY IS A HALLMARK OF STUPID RELIGIONS

  by steve2 in

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  we credit religious believers with far too much interest in and/or ability to engage in reasoning.

  we overlook two hugely compelling factors that drive and revive "faith": emotional need for religious meaning, including to be consoled over awful events, and being born into the religion.

  raised from day one to recite stupidity, it is then hard to assess stupidity for what it is.. that is why there is no shortage of stupid religions who turn date-speculation into a near-art form.

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  OneGenTwoGroups

  Isn't it curious punkofnice that the lastest "understanding" of the generation is that that second group is basically the Governing Body members themselves. Hey look this applies to .... ME! Completely infantile.
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  Has Anyone Heard Whether The New JW Bible Is Liked As Much As The Old One?

  by minimus in

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  my mom told me that she, my brother and his wife really didn't like this new bible.. when i asked her why, she said they dropped the headings on the top of the pages and that just wasn't as good.. have you heard any pros and cons about the new good book?.

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  OneGenTwoGroups

  The honeymoon is already over.
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  Past couple years of being awake might be catching up with me

  by noonehome in

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  i was a little too honest with a super close friend who is one of the most important people in my life.

  my mistake.

  she talked to an elder about my doubts...i know she had my best interests in mind and i hold nothing against her.

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  OneGenTwoGroups

  Imagine being in your situation and also married to a true believer at the same time that you dearly love. If you can imagine that, you will be able to empathize with me and my situation.

  I have always been able to make very good friends very easily, not sure why, just a knack that I have. And, I bond closely with people and they bond closely to me. This gift becomes the double-edged sword if and when you "wake-up". Why? Because I have MANY good JW friends that I dearly love.

  The only thing that is helping me keep my sanity is that I'm also being hit by the "disfellowshipping in reverse" affect. I've posted about this phenomenon on JWR some time back. Now that I've embraced reality, sitting around with my buddies as they yammer on about the "wonderful" bOrg and bOrg situations, my desire to be around them has cooled. Most social occasions with my JW friends now make me want to put my head through a wall.

  "That was a wonderul talk this morning."

  "How was field service this morning?"

  "My daughter had her first part on the school this week!"

  yada yada yada KILL ME NOW!

  I love my family, and I love my friends, truly and deeply. But these days and on most occasions I can't stand being around them.

  This is not a happy nor a joyous reality. But, I woud compare it to chemo-therapy. It's not something I want, but it is helping.