Posts by xyzzy

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How to reason with a rapist.

by flower in

(title modified per request).

and to think, i thought i was valuing my precious gift of life so much that i was willing to sumbit to a violent crime in order stay alive.

how twisted my thinking.

xyzzy

You don't "reason" with rapists. You simply shoot them dead.

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"Jehovah's Witness School"

by Jacinta in

i posted my experience on this board and took for granted that some may have never heard of the jw school.

i don't know if they exist in every state (apparently not), but the one i went to is named new world education center.

all of the teachers had to be baptized jws and the principal as well.

xyzzy

Huh. I've never heard of such a school when I was a JW. Perhaps it was some sort of local thing?

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BENEVOLENT DICTATOR

by TR in

if i were benevolent dictator of the u.s., i would:.

give tax incentives to those who want to run their own small business.

make abortion illegal except for rape or incest.

- Abolish all drug laws. All of them. The only one that would remain is that they could only be sold to those at least 18 years of age. There'd also be laws governing the purity of drugs, to keep some poor schmoe's crystal meth from being laced with strychnine or whatever.

- Come to think of it, all laws based on subjective morality would also be overturned. Gay marriage? Done! Cohabitation? Have fun, you two (or more)! In fact, the only sex laws left would ban sex with minors and rape.

- All houses of worship would be taxed. The First Amendment of the US Constitution should no longer be abused and turned into a loophole. Tax the church just like any other business.

- Any lawmaker who introduces passing/repealing legislation whose motives are based purely on religious principles not supported by reason would be immediately bounced from office and banned from all future political office.

- All citizens over 18 who have not been convicted of crime or judged mentally incompetent shall have the right to own firearms and carry concealed handguns. They shall also have the right to shoot to kill anyone breaking into their homes or attempting to carjack them, as well as firing upon those who attempt to victimise a third party. So you want that sweet little AK47 you saw in Shotgun News? If ya got the funds, go ahead and buy it. Get full auto, get a silencer, it'd all be completely legal. No registration, no license, the only paperwork you'd need for it would be fifteen USD$100 bills.

- Any crime that causes harm to an innocent person would be met by swift and certain punishment. Oh, so the scumbag in the dock was sexually molested as a child? So were lots of other folks, and they don't do crimes.

- The state would have no role in education. Abolish public schools, and turn the care over to the parents, where it belongs! If someone is too poor to afford private schools, many charities would be glad to provide education for free.

- Discrimination based on race/religion/sexual orientation etc would also be banned. That includes "affirmative action" as well as signs reading "Whites Only". Race, religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity, and so on wouldn't even be considered when it comes to being eligible for housing, employment, use of public facilities, or whatever.

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all!"
~Nikita Khrushchev, premier of the Soviet Union, echoed in the teachings of the WatchTower

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1914 - on the way out?

by PopeOfEruke in

as i haven't read any jw literature some 10 years or more now, can anyone tell me when was the last time that 1914 was seriously mentioned or discussed in a wt or book or whatever?.

and when was the last time the calculation of the "7 times" which leads to 1914 was actually put down in writing in jw lit?

has it been in a wt study article recently?.

xyzzy

That doesn't suprise me, actually. Cults are like that. The whole 1914 episode reminds me of that televangelist who said that if he didn't raise a certain amount of money, the Lord would "call him home". Well, he failed to raise the money and he's still breathing. Strange, hey?

I believe that the WTS will continue onward just the same. We have a saying here in the US that goes "there's a sucker born every minute". Unfortunately, there are many lonely, spiritually broken people out there who need love and fellowship, and look to cults to get it.

Fortunately, there are many out there like me who do get out, and warn others about that cult. Free speech cuts both ways, and it applies every bit as much to me as it does to the cults.

Frankly, I'm suprised that the WTS hasn't pulled a Scientology type move against their "opposers" and sued/slandered/harassed the critics in any major way.

I'm out of the WTS now, and I'll never look back.

As for the 1914 thing (I see I went offtopic there, my bad), I was a Borg back in the 1980s. Yes, 1914 was a big deal then. Just take a look at any WTS literature from that era. It was constantly emphasised over and over again from the pulpit and from the WatchTower and Awake magazines. One need only look for oneself.

The WTS is truly evil. They have broken so many souls and enslaved the minds of so many. Take a look at my .sig file - although that was originally from a Soviet leader, it could very well have come from any Circuit Overseer. The WTS is very much like the old USSR that way (maybe we should call it the WTSSR?) in its control of its followers. The 1914 thing is only one of many abuses.

For those of you in the WTS and loyal - why follow the fallible, pulsing light of the WTS when you can follow Nature and Reason to the pure Light of Truth?

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all!"
~Nikita Khrushchev, premier of the Soviet Union, echoed in the teachings of the WatchTower

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Do you still believe the WTS doctine's?

by TheRecordCollector in

man is a soul,.

christ was created, .

holy spirit a real person, or god's active force?.

xyzzy

I used to be a faithful Borg in the Watchtower. Not only am I no longer a Dub, I'm no longer Christian. As for my current beliefs, I follow only one rule: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law".

My God is Nature, my doctrine is Logic, and my religion is Love. I neither have nor need anything else to be complete. I especially don't need the god of Christianity who would kill his own son on a cross just so that we wouldn't burn in a hell that same god freely created and could abolish entirely with a wave of his hand.

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all!"
~Nikita Khrushchev, premier of the Soviet Union, echoed in the teachings of the WatchTower

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Change your sales tactics, Jehovah

by messenger in

jw
friends

change your sales tactics, jehovah .

http://www.news24.co.za/city_press/city_press_leaders/0,1885,186-189_1151992,00.html.

jehovah sent a bigger brigade than usual of witnesses to yeoville yesterday morning, determined to badger sinners into converting to their faith before the second coming.

xyzzy

I used to be accosted by the Witnesses on the street corner all the time. There are a few places that they can't preach/missionise, such as shopping malls and office buildings.

I'm suprised that the dubs haven't turned to spamming/telemarketing. That sort of aggressive marketing sounds like it'd be right up their alley (but let's not give them any ideas, hehe).

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all!"
~Nikita Khrushchev, premier of the Soviet Union, echoed in the teachings of the WatchTower

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Ah, the WatchTower...(rant)

by xyzzy in

please forgive me if this post doesn't seem logical to you.

i'm just letting myself go.. my mom was baptised into the wtc when i was two years old.

i grew up in the witnesses.

xyzzy

Oooh, I meant WTS when I wrote WTC. WatchTower Society.

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all!"
~Nikita Khrushchev, premier of the Soviet Union, echoed in the teachings of the WatchTower

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Ah, the WatchTower...(rant)

by xyzzy in

please forgive me if this post doesn't seem logical to you.

i'm just letting myself go.. my mom was baptised into the wtc when i was two years old.

i grew up in the witnesses.

xyzzy

Please forgive me if this post doesn't seem logical to you. I'm just letting myself go.

My mom was baptised into the WTC when I was two years old. I grew up in the Witnesses. I remember that I couldn't listen to any good music or hang out with other kids my age. I hated that. I remember walking around with my head hanging down, afraid to associate with anyone that I might lose my salvation. I remember doing the door to door work. Because of the Witnesses, I had no chance to develop friendships with others. I have no friends today because I don't know how to make them.

I'm out. Mom and I both left, doing the "quiet fade" thing. It works. Now I drink what I like (107 proof Booker's Brand), smoke whatever I want, and listen to whatever music I want. I am now free. But the effect of the WatchTower is still there. I feel lonely and alienated.

If you have gone through something similar, email me at [email protected] as I'd love to hear from you.

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all!"
~Nikita Khrushchev, premier of the Soviet Union, echoed in the teachings of the WatchTower

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reasoning on disfellowshipping

by hungry4life in

i was looking through the reasoning book trying to find information on disfellowshipping and i couldn't find anything.

when i look at the principal subjects index in the front i see many controversial subjects and teachings of other religions such as confession, purgatory, hell, speaking in tongues and rapture.

yet no listing for this sensitive subject.

xyzzy

Duh. Of COURSE they won't publish that. The last thing they want is for the truth to get out, right?

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all!"
~Nikita Khrushchev, premier of the Soviet Union, echoed in the teachings of the WatchTower

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why, what made you join JWs?

by tosko in

i would like some brief stories of people saying the reasons they joined jw organisation.

where you already in another church, were you disillusioned, were you biblically illiterate?

and if it is possible, please let me know where you come from, hoping you're not all from usa.

xyzzy

My mom joined when I was two years old. I was raised in that faith. I was told not to plan for the future, as Armageddon would wipe it all away. I couldn't associate with others, as they were not JWs. As I grew through my teen years, I became a Deist. Now I'm out of that hell, and am feeling much better.

I look forward to participating on these boards. :)

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all!"
~Nikita Khrushchev, premier of the Soviet Union, echoed in the teachings of the WatchTower