df'd and never looked back...
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Posts by zanex
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43How many of you were disfellowshipped?
by Oxnard Hamster injust curious.
i get the impression from reading posts that a great deal are.
i also noticed while i was studying with them that virtually everybody has/had a relative that was disfellowshipped or knew someone who is/was.
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Whats the nicest thing anyone has said/done to you?
by SpiceItUp in.
in the spirit of minimus i thought i'd put a positive spin on things.
they say when you surrond yourself with the positive its easier to be positive and vice versa for negativity (no offense to min as i also fully believe that you have to deal with negativity too).... that being said....whats the nicest thing, compliment, gift etc that anyone has ever said or done to/for you?.
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zanex
the first thing that comes to mind is my daughter said, "love u dada" it was the nicest warmest thing I had heard/felt in a long time...good thread...
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How Many Feel That The Bible Is Not "Inspired" After All???
by minimus inso many do quote a scripture to make a point against an idea, yet i see that a number do not seem to believe in the bible's inspiration, anyway.
so, do you believe that the bible is god's inspired word??
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zanex
For a long time I had this theory that the bible was written by men inspired of Magic Mushroom Power and that those sporadic times of "spiritual revelation" were in fact actually fungi derived. Shrooms my good people...or peyote or any other manner of psychedelic drug. That theory did not stay for too long..ate a large amount of shrooms myself once upon a time and just never looked at them the same way again.. Now I just dont think that it was inspired of anything...other than maybe testosterone...
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New to the board
by Michalea inhello, just wanted to introduce myself.
was raised as one from about 4 to 16. mother jw and still in, father and 2 brothers never were.
just within the past 6 months or so realizing the effects of being raised jw has had on me.
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zanex
Welcome...to this safe haven for all those who have left the lash and oppresion of the tyrannical lords of Jehovahs Witnesses....(hahahahahahahahaha..sounds pretty good doesnt it?) Really though...welcome..its a funny place here with some good information and sort of a guide to wherever it is that the road takes ya...
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Did you get made fun of when you were in school?
by doodle-v indid you get made fun of when you were in school?
i'm curious to know because when i was in junior high i was constantly picked on made fun of and the butt of many jokes.
even remembering that hurts till this day.
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zanex
Damn...I was WHAT the kids all made fun of back then..it wasnt a question of did I get made fun of it was a matter of which day it was coming that week. I hated school for a long long time...basically my entire school career was spent as a jw..forced to go into long discussions to teachers and subjected to the constant strain of verbal and physical abuse that would stem from those discussions. Teachers can be ignorant and it was twice as bad as a jw growing up back then. I think maybe it isnt as bad today, I could be wrong i havent been to a school like that in years. Havent been around any active jw's either. FUnny thing too I got an invitation to my 10 year hs reunion the other day..I havent decided whether or not I am interested in going.
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zanex
wll that depends on who you are asking frist of all. That question would have meaning to some and scorn from others. If you were asking an elder he would probably tell you that when we "give ourselves to christ" it gives us a sense of freedom, peace or tranquility. That "freedom" is something that they believe comes from that imperfect, deranged body of bethelites that call themselves "anointed". i have other views on it. I do not believe that freedom comes from christ and it isnt something that anyone or anything can give you. It is something that is self-taught. It was this way for every type of slave or bound servant over the many years of human existance. Those slaves grew tired of being subservient to anyone. The patriots rebel against a status quo. Freedom, true freedom comes from within. So not sure if i answered yer question or not...so the answer i guess would be that the phrase "freedom in christ" doesnt mean much if anything...it depends on who is answering that...
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I am so hurt. JW friend has disowned me :-(
by Hamas ini got to hear some real bad news
i was speaking to my 'best friends' sister only minutes ago.
my 'best friend' i used to do everything with.
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zanex
hamas: I know where to get some good c-4...untraceable to me or anyone else...I have a few kh's I'd like to see go up in a big mushroom cloud of smoke... The shunning never gets any easier..tears family and friends apart. (gives a shoulder to lean on) it's there if ya need it...(not that I actually MEAN the blowing up a kh bit or anything) (wouldnt want the authorities to bust in on my legal non-profit activities or anything)
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Alone he sat
by TorturedSoul inalone he sat and stared .
at pictures hanging on the wall.... the photographs now old and grey .
not really there at all.... a slide show of his life .
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zanex
excellent...it rings true to the core of many of us. Interesting isnt it? How this cultish borgish organization can give us such anger, pain, suffering, confusion, angst and yet at the same time give those of us like TS the ability to write heart stirring verse which strikes chords with a VAST array of different people is something that I am not sure I am able to understand but am grateful for. Through the fires we have gone and some have emerged with gifts and talents they were unaware they had. It was so for me. Write on TS...I look forward to more of your adept writing in the future...
"In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not wince nor cried aloud
under the bludgeonings of chance
my head is bloody but UNBOWED"
...Henley
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update on old jw friend
by zanex inwell as per my email a few weeks ago i met with a jw that is currently attempting to leave the org..it was quite an interesting meeting actually...he is just at the beginning of his departure of leaving the jw's so quite a few of his mannerisms were reminiscint of my own attitudes and perceptions.
it was a good meeting and we will be keeping in touch..its funny..i was straight up with him and told him that i had been having apprehensions about meeting with him and he asked if i trusted him and i was honest i told him no, that just because he and i were once jw's didnt mean that any measure of that trust carried over when i left the org.
i had to explain that to him...it wasnt anything personal but he is still technically a jw..he is still baptized and has not been df'd or da'd...for me that presented a very real issue.
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zanex
I wish I would have had someone when I was leaving to show me the way or to give me some type of starting point to go from...I find it ironic that I am helping someone else leave...funny though..i never actively thought that I would have any type of impact upon ANY of those still within the clutches of the jw grip...good feeling...I am just going to try and keep it honest with him...I still have trust issues of my own when it comes to anyone still baptized, maybe this will be theraputic for me as well...hmmm never know about much of anything I suppose til ya actually go through it...
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update on old jw friend
by zanex inwell as per my email a few weeks ago i met with a jw that is currently attempting to leave the org..it was quite an interesting meeting actually...he is just at the beginning of his departure of leaving the jw's so quite a few of his mannerisms were reminiscint of my own attitudes and perceptions.
it was a good meeting and we will be keeping in touch..its funny..i was straight up with him and told him that i had been having apprehensions about meeting with him and he asked if i trusted him and i was honest i told him no, that just because he and i were once jw's didnt mean that any measure of that trust carried over when i left the org.
i had to explain that to him...it wasnt anything personal but he is still technically a jw..he is still baptized and has not been df'd or da'd...for me that presented a very real issue.
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zanex
well as per my email a few weeks ago I met with a jw that is currently attempting to leave the org..it was quite an interesting meeting actually...he is just at the beginning of his departure of leaving the jw's so quite a few of his mannerisms were reminiscint of my own attitudes and perceptions. It was a good meeting and we will be keeping in touch..its funny..I was straight up with him and told him that I had been having apprehensions about meeting with him and he asked if I trusted him and I was honest I told him no, that just because he and I were once jw's didnt mean that any measure of that trust carried over when I left the org. I had to explain that to him...it wasnt anything personal but he is still technically a jw..he is still baptized and has not been df'd or da'd...for me that presented a very real issue. He seemed naive and almost innocent on some level that I recall having been at. That instant "trust" that jw's are supposed to have for other jw's is something that I think he still has. It will fade in time I am sure of that. We had a good conversation though and agreed to keep in contact..I let him know that I did not want any jw involvement from any angle so to please keep my name from entering into conversation when talking to active jw's. I felt wierd...had never used all that anger and pain from those years as a jw to help someone else leave...he had already taken the first step but he thanked me for being suppportive and honest in my cynical manner. At any rate..I gave him the www to this site and he said he would check it out. I didnt get the name that he was going to use though...lol anyway thats my update!
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