this is my first post and im nervous but i've read many so far.
my situation is this im going to be 21 in june and i'm in love with my boyfriend but he not a witness and i am( i have been my entire life) my parent found out and forbid me to see him and even told me to leave, i did leave for a day, but they called me back.
but they still hate that i have any contact with him...and we still want to get married.
figure yourself out...FIRST....it will save u from a lot of serious heartache in the future...trust me....depending on your attachemnt to your family or their loylty to the collective it can be freakin hard to be in a relationship with someone who hasnt gone thru it...not saying it cant work just tread carefully...
-Z- (of the figuring it out for myself class)
after watching jordon spraks on american idol so strongly supported by her parents, i wonder what some of us could have accomplished had we had the same in our younger years.. what could you have done at that age?.
r..
I could have RULED the world!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh wait..realistically u mean? who knows! I had an interest in the stage many many years ago...had to smuggle myself into an audition in HS..got the part even...(a drunk, homelss bum with a little dog he carried around) but had to lie to my folks..sneak out for rehearsals and even had to *GASP miss not one but TWO meetings in one week...sigh...eh...those were the days...anyways..wuda cuda mighta been able to have been an actor with a little support from my parental units! lol but hey thats life right?
-Z-
good evening,.
i am a virgin to this forum do bear with me!.
i am curious who visits.
Disfellowshipped....and have the emotional scars to prove it...(got some physical scars from it too but thats not relevant..)
-Z-
having read posts over the last few months, i have come to the conclusion that there must be alot of 'active' jw's who still regularly attend meetings/field service etc.. don't you feel that by posting your many and varied topics, usually complaining/disagreeing with the wbts, that you are being hypocritical?
when you post your information, obtained sometimes in an questionable manner, doesn't it make you question your own underhanded actions?.
you converse with many on this forum who are disfellowshipped/dissasociated, yet if you knew who these ones were, face to face, you would not give them the time of day!
its amazing what catches my eye in terms of posting...sigh. This one's gonna get me in trouble tho...sigh...I have had a bad week so here's some blatant truth as perceived by me...
I am one of those who lived an active JW life and then now even MORE living in the DF life...I lost ALL my family from this..I lost ALL "friends" that i had gained over some 10 years or so of active jw "ness"...do I feel as though I HAD to lose all of those "friends" and "family" to gain real truth? Yes....I can now say that. If I wanted to survive bad enuff I would do what I had to...
Does it bother me when people talk about whats wrong with the society while STILL actively being PART of it? Sometimes it does...Why should others be allowed to "have their cake and eat it too?" Being disfellowshipped to me is now as much of a punishment of THOSE people who put me here in the first place. Maybe THEY are the ones who need the "reverse disfellowshipping" My active disfellowshipping of THEM may make them realize the folly of their way and change...I dunno...
I understand the reasoning behind the high level of unease, and decisive punishment meted out by the JW org is severe and coming out of those covers is blindingly difficult, but at some point the break MUST come...and complaints about the society must be followed by action...at whatever the cost. It is NOT easy...but who said anything worthwhile was easy?
No judgement here tho...people got to do what they got to do to survive...regardless of what others say...
-Z- (of the know how difficult it is class)
Half-baked....lol
hey everyone, i am working on a paper that i am writing for school.
i am taking a short story that i have read and want to point out the fact that it shows suffering as art, and it shows that there is a type of beauty within pain.
the problem is, i want to compare it to other works of art (books, music, films, paintings, sculptures, etc.
im with richie on the piercing thing...tattooists have been making their bodies art canvasses for years...
(z of the artistically pierced class)
there was a disfellowshipped jw that came to the witness now for jesus convention in pennsylvania.
we all tried to show him the error of the jw way but he is just so blinded that he couldn't understand what the problem is with jws (can you believe it?!
) we tried until we were blue in the face and it seemed that with every step we went forward with him one day, we went back two the next.
"Be good. Dont find yourself getting porked for Satan, thinking you are a witness for Jesus while thrown out of Jehovah's fold." I am not a religious person anymore but this just made me roll around laughing...what a half-wit! If anyone is being porked for Satan, as is so eloquently writ, its them! lol... -Z-
i'm still somewhat hopeful my family will one day 'see the light'.
in your experience, did any of your family members finally understand your reason for leaving and communicate with you as a family member and not an apostate?.
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well...its been ummmm 15 plus years now...and my Jw mom, pop and sis are still shunnin strong...but hey thats the breaks...
-Z-
i've shown this to a couple of friends, but i'm ready to widen that audience a bit.
so, without further ado, here's my soul mate story.. i worked with amber and saw her a few times a week.
when i first accepted a lead care position, she was the one who trained me in on med passing and from that first day i worked with her, i was so impressed by how kind and patient she was.
Dude...yer poetry is on point...I only wonder if she was really willing to go as deep as your poems went...I know how you feel, but take heed...there IS such a thing as a soulmate...I found mine and I've not had what one would call a very positive history with relationships.
On a different note...I read yer story and maybe for future reference...ladies tend to shy away from any mention of prostitution...im sure u dont need me to tell ya that...
(((((((((((((abandoned)))))))))))))
-Z-
i got a couple of lumps of coal and a 2 for 1 mcdonald's dollar menu coupon.
warm and fed...a christmas miracle!!
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I know this is gonna sound cheesy but this is what I got for christmas...
I got my daughter to stay over xmas eve..we went down xmas tree lane, had a GREAT dinner and put some milk and cookies out for santa and then tucked her away to a story about "twas the night before christmas" that had even ME wondering what was going to happen that night.
I think my ultimate gift though was the xpression on her face in the morning when she ran out into the living room and instead of going for the mountain of presents she went for the plate and the glass of milk that had been emptied by Santa...she turned to me and said, "look daddy! Santa ate the cookies!" For that one split instant I saw it...I saw that fat, white dude in the red suit eating cookies and drinking milk while kicking his boots off onto my coffee table.
for the first time in over 25 years it was so real, I could feel it, see it, hold some type of belief without feeling like i had an instant rebuttal for why it was wrong. This whole thing is what I got for christmas and I think I enjoyed it more than any material thing I could have been given, but I was given the obligatory "dad" gift...my 5 year old kiddo got me a tie with a christmas tree on it that when u push a button on it the darn thing sings "silent night"! Good grief...I so felt like I was on an episode of the cosbys..lol. Anyhow...thats what I got and I LOvED IT! MErry Freaking Christmas!
-Z-
(of the usually down class but on cloud nine at the moment class)
