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  JUSTICE #4b - See No Evil, Hear No Evil, ...

  by Amazing in

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  see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil .

  some see this expression as a positive exhortation to not look at bad things, don't listen to evil, and don't gossip.

  other's see it more like three foolish monkeys who would not look, listen, or speak out against injustice.

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  zev

  i am enjoying the experiences your sharing with us.

  thank you.

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  zev
  Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.
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  What Caused Your First Doubt ?

  by Big Jim in

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  2. friends

  for me it was when i was about twelve years old and my best friends dad was disfellowshipped from the congregation.. i could not understand how a god of love would treat someone so coldly.. i used to think what if that was the way my parents would treat me if i had done something wrong, that would be so hard and cruel.. as i got older another thing that bothered me was the beard issue.

  it may sound pretty trivial however the society has always refused to make a good arguement as to why they would give you the old cold shoulder if you were to grow one.. two more items; first i could not understand why all the congregations and all the assemblys would give income reports.

  and the society never did.

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  zev

  for me, looking back, it was the day i turned in my resignation as a m.s. to the c.o. i "saw" alot going on that wasn't right, though, couldn't put my finger on why i felt the way i did. within the last year, i stumbled on information concerning molesting of children within the "org". that started me into an earnest effort to review my beliefs and why i believed the way i did.

  it didn't take long to discover the answers to the questions and feeling i've had for so many years.

  beware of the internet. the information so easily accessable here can be disasterous to the "org"...

  i'm glad i finally "saw the light"

  the beard stand has always been a tough point for me.

  if only they had come clean and admitted their mistakes.
  they are proud and haughty.

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  zev
  Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.
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  Survey

  by Vienna in

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  how many on this board are: a) christains--not a jw b) jehovah's witnesses c) do not believe in god d) have a belief in god but just not active in anything right now.

  i'm new to the board and was curious as to everyone's standing.

  i'm 30, a christain, i left the jws 3 years ago (after being in it for 21 years) to follow jesus and heard of, among other good things, this great thing called: grace!

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  zev

  you asked:

  How many on this board are: a) Christains--not a JW b) Jehovah's Witnesses c) Do not believe in God d) Have a belief in God but just not active in anything right now

  
  in answer:
  a:christian
  b:yes, still
  c:believe in god
  d:mixed feelings

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  Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.
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  its a boy

  by zev in

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  one of my step-sons has had a baby.. so at the young and tender age of 39, i suppose you could call me..... grandpa .

  everyones healthy and fine.

  there were no complications.. and grandma zev is beside herself.. __.

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  zev

  one of my step-sons has had a baby.
  so at the young and tender age of 39, i suppose you could call me....

  grandpa

  everyones healthy and fine. there were no complications.
  and grandma zev is beside herself.

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  zev
  Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.
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  TRUST or DOUBT???

  by MacHislopp in

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  i would like to remind you of this article:.

  *** w86 4/1 30 questions from readers ***.

  why have jehovahs witnesses disfellowshipped (excommunicated) for apostasy some who still profess belief in god, the bible, and jesus christ?.

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  zev

  hey j.c.m., you asked:

  organisations, associations etc. which refuse the most elementary forms of "free speech and conversation " are called what?

  A Kult!

  Simple

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  Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.
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  To all the British..{way-way-off topic}

  by zev in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  at work i had this discussion with some of my buds, ..... what is the thing about the british, and irish, with drinking warm beer?

  or at least room temperature?.

  when i've done that, it dont do anything for me.

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  zev

  could you help me out here?

  at work i had this discussion with some of my buds, ....
  what is the thing about the british, and irish, with drinking warm beer? or at least room temperature?

  when i've done that, it dont do anything for me. help me out there. is it just a cultural thing, or is there more to it than us dweeby americans know about?

  thanks

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  zev
  Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.
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  for those who "grew up in the borg"

  by zev in

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  at this late, middle stage of my life, i've started wondering, now that i know what i know, about the things in my life that i "lived" with.

  having been raised all my life in the "borg" i have known nothing else.

  when questions began forming years ago, it started me thinking.

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  zev

  at this late, middle stage of my life, i've started wondering, now that i know what i know, about the things in my life that i "lived" with. having been raised all my life in the "borg" i have known nothing else. when questions began forming years ago, it started me thinking. slowly. must not tax the creative juices. but, what had accured to me was that because of the stigma thats attached to j-dubs, and going thru public schools, being tortured for "believing" [at least, at that time] the way we did, the things we couldn't do, the ridicule, the name calling, abuse and many other things, i can't even bear to think of now, how much its affected me even now, to not even want to admit to my co-workers who or what i was, even for many years, for fear of the abuse i would take, as had happened to me in my younger days.

  how much has being and growing up a j-dub affected you? even now, especially if your still "in", how much does what you went through in your early fromative years, affect you, even now, decaeds after the fact?

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  Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.
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  DEEMINZ AT THE KINGDOM HALL!

  by TR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the other day, i was sharing with my non jw, never has been jw, never would be a jw catholic wife the story silent lambs told us about his last visit to the kh.

  i was inspired to visit the kh and play some mind games.. my wife bettered my idea and threw in the idea to make something "demonic" happen at the hall while i'm there.

  maybe a hidden tape recorder of some evil sounds or some other tricks.

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  zev

  ven said:

  how about a few AID books on the shelf. And the ever popular Interliner, which will get you an elders visit if you try and order one!!!

  how come? i'm not up on that one. fill me in, please.

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  Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.
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  Are Pedophiles Knocking At Your Door?

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the following are ads to place in your local paper to help get the word out regarding molestation issues within the watchtower organization.

  we ask that you do not add any further information other than what is listed here as we wish the message to be uniform.. any suggestions can be sent to info@silentlambs and will be considered.

  1.. are pedophiles knocking on your door?.

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  zev

  hmmm.

  got me thinking. though still "in", i'm wondering.
  i have a complete list of all the members in the local congregation. complete with addresses. i wonder if anonymous snail mail would be appropriate. no return address. nothing to say who its from. and one piece of paper in it. with silent lambs stuff.

  the wheels are turning.

  good idea?

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  zev
  Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.
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  ANOTHER way jWs will Violate you

  by Tallyman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep.. there are a lot of "mary"s in the organization who will not hestitate to violate your most private/confidential/personal information.. a person just asked me if i had an original watchtower which contained an article this person badly wanted... not the bound volume or cd version, but the original... and if i could provide good scans of the article.. once this person explained the situation, i agreed.

  a close relative of this person has cancer and went to an oncologist for treatment, and part of the treatment included blood transfusions.

  welll, a "mary" secretary who was in the employ of this doctor, recognized this cancer patient as a jw, and seeing that she took blood, felt like she had to violate the confidentiality oath she took when the doctor employed her, and "obey god as ruler rather than men" and promptly made sure the elders became aware of this situation... and needless to say, all hell broke loose.. well, this person is so mad, this person is now on a mission, a campaign, to pass out copies of this watchtower article:.

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  zev

  i know this from personal experience.
  my son used to work for a local store. caught a j-dup stealing and turned him into the authorities, and to the j-dub judicials. guess what? he lost his job over it. just goes to show you, even when you "think" its the right thing to do, it isn't always the case. should have kept quiet, let it go to the papers and let the borg drones see it there. live and learn.

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  zev
  Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.