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  Its not raining in NY!

  by izobcenec in

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  check this out...live webcam.

  http://www.newyork.ru/webcam/

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  LuckyLucy

  Wow...that is weird..you just keep clicking on the pic and it eventually changes.BTW it is raining here in sunny Cali.
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  Out of the mouths of JW's/Pedophile issue

  by LuckyLucy in

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  welcome to thewatchtower.org we hope you'll feel comfortable here - whoever you are.. registration is optional and you may post in any forum.

  the site is monitored but not censored except to remove offensive posts and images.

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  Welcome to theWatchtower.org We hope you'll feel comfortable here - whoever you are. Registration is optional and you may post in any forum. The site is monitored but not censored except to remove offensive posts and images. Profanity filters are active in all forums. Please note that the Debate forum is the place for all contentious and controversial posts while JustJW's is the one strictly monitored forum we try to keep safe for Jehovah's Witnesses. We're sure you'll find your own natural place here and very much look forward to hearing from you. Joel, Ben & Ryck theWatchtower.org > News & Events > What do you think...

  Author Comment Wolfgirlhk Registered User Posts: 3 (9/25/02 10:08:06 am) Reply What do you think... ...of all the recent news stories of child abuse within the organisation? Are the elders doing what they should? I mean, I remember loads of times that they would mock the Catholic Church for protecting pedophile (sp?) priests. And now it's coming out that they're doing the same thing? How does that make you feel? (I have personal interest in this question.) ________________________________________ I am ready to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter. ~ Sir Winston Churchill the dog Unregistered User (9/25/02 11:43:47 am) Reply Too many abusers..... I've attended meetings for over 30 years. I have personally known 4 abusers and 1 rapist in the three congregations I've been associated with in that time. The only way the brothers got to know about these individuals was when the police decided to prosecute, otherwise we would have been unaware just what sort of men we we sharing meals and associating with. I know for a fact that one of the child abusers, an elder, had been reported to the body of elders in his cong' over 10 years ago. They decided that as there were not two witnesses to the 'alleged' abuse that they could not pursue the matter. He carried on abusing "systematically" according to the judges summing up. Yes, he was prosecuted, found guilty and jailed some months ago and yet he is still an elder! Quote: Are the elders doing what they should? Do I really need to answer that? the dog Ben Site Administrator Posts: 5 (9/25/02 11:11:44 pm) Reply Re: What do you think... Its important to understand the difficult position that elders find themselves in. Discounting the fact that a great many elders are totally unqualified to be in the position they hold as respects general education, aptitude, and just plain good sense, we must remember that there are a number of elders who truly want to do the right thing. They are very limited as to what they can do. They must follow policy from the Society. Policy comes in a variety of ways, including special letters written specifically to the body of elders (BOE), information that everyone reads out of the Watchtower, information in the KS (Elders book), letters written to specific congregations or specific elder(s) as well as the variety of ways that the unwritten policies are disseminated. The latter is accomplished by means of direct conversations with C.O.s; elders meetings with the C.O., elders meetings at circuit assemblies with the D.O. and C.O., direct communication with the society by phone, and sometimes by conversations from bethelites that come down for special talks, etc. I believe someone posted something to this effect on our old board but it doesnt hurt to review it. Smile. Now Im sure the elders would love to do the right and sensible thing here and tell the congregation: Look, people, if someone molests your child, regardless of who he is, call the police immediately! But simply put, they cant do that. Those are not the instructions from Brooklyn on the matter. Concerns about the present policy should be addressed to the Society itself and not the elders or the Circuit or even District Overseers. P.S. The Society will not respond to your concerns either. Smile. To do so would imply that they are submitting to human reasoning and we all know that their information comes directly from abovedont we? Wolfgirlhk Registered User Posts: 5 (9/26/02 7:46:37 am) Reply Re: What do you think... Quote: Now Im sure the elders would love to do the right and sensible thing here and tell the congregation: Look, people, if someone molests your child, regardless of who he is, call the police immediately! But simply put, they cant do that. Those are not the instructions from Brooklyn on the matter. Hmm...you would think that they would not follow orders that endangered the lives of children. After all, even "worldly" people can see that "just following orders" is not a good excuse to do the wrong thing. Look at Nurenburg (sp?). The Nazi officers said they were "just following orders." They were still condemned. If it was your child, would you sit quietly and let the person get away with it? Or would you go to the police? Quote: I believe someone posted something to this effect on our old board but it doesnt hurt to review it. I never saw the old board. I'm a newcomer. ________________________________________ I am ready to meet my Maker. Whether my Maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter. ~ Sir Winston Churchill

  
  

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  Just JW's seems to have evolved.

  by montag in

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  they've got a shiny new site and a snappy new address: www.thewatchtower.org.

  hope i posted this in the right forum - they do seem to be focusing on wt literature!!!!.

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  LuckyLucy

  Anyone can post...this is just temporary...The password for everyone is "sunflower"

  I'm feeling a little like being a bad apostate ...bad!!
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  Pet Peeves

  by jgnat in

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  i am bored today.

  want to help me make a list of pet peeves?

  any subject.

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  People who scream "discrimination" when they get pulled over by cop.

  Edited by - LuckyLucy on 26 September 2002 15:43:5
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  Do You Believe Any of "The Truth"?

  by XBEHERE in

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  i've been lurking for several months, its my first post here.

  i am currently an active jw.

  i have a very jw family so i have to be careful.

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  Ecclesiastes 12:12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. Ecclesiastes 12:13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
  Ecclesiastes 12:14	For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
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  Pet Peeves

  by jgnat in

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  i am bored today.

  want to help me make a list of pet peeves?

  any subject.

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  People who throw trash next to a trash can.
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  Are there any brave JW doubters?

  by bigdaddysgurl27 in

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  if there is anyone that is doubting the jws beliefs even just the least little bit or just looking for a change in your life?

  ; please try my jesus.

  if the christian life isn't for you then go back to the life you had before.

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  LuckyLucy

  Ecclesiastes 12:12	And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

  Ecclesiastes 12:13	Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
  Ecclesiastes 12:14	For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
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  Answers please

  by bigdaddysgurl27 in

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  can someone please tell me the beliefs of j w?

  do they believe that jesus died on the cross and shed his blood for us?

  do they believe that through jesus christ we shall be saved?

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  LuckyLucy

  Click on each of the blue links for more info.

  Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, Charles Taze Russell, Brooklyn, NY: Satan is the originator of the idea of the Trinity. The Father is the supreme God whose real name is Jehovah. Jesus is a created being known originally as Michael the Archangel; he is a god, not Jehovah. Jesus only rose spiritually, not bodily, from the dead. The Holy Spirit is the impersonal active force of God. Only the anointed class (or little flock) numbering 144,000 will go to heaven, while faithful other sheep will live eternally on a paradise earth; the lost will cease to exist (annihilationism). Publishes the Watchtower and Awake! magazines, the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (their own version of the Bible), as well as numerous books. Originally called International Bible Students, followers today are called Jehovahs Witnesses. Research material available. Profile available.

  Click on the last link "Profile"

  Edited by - LuckyLucy on 24 September 2002 14:46:22
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  I never quite made it

  by link in

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  if we take a look at the mental energy that must have been expended in contributing to threads on this board regarding various concepts of christianity it does not seen unlikely that, if it could have been "bottled" and kept, it could be used to power the next space shuttle.. is this what christianity is all about?

  is it just one gigantic intellectual exercise that is only an option to those with the mental capacity to understand the never ending theorys put forward by all and sundry regarding its practice and bible understanding?

  i believe that this would exclude at least two thirds of the worlds population from ever becoming, what many seem to believe are, true christians.

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  Ecclesiastes 12:12

  And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

  Ecclesiastes 12:13	Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
  Ecclesiastes 12:14	For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
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  Personal Protection

  by LuckyLucy in

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  last summer i got mugged.i have been taking kickboxing classes but i am seriously thinking about getting one of these babies.do any of you carry any kind of protection??.

  the cia model 850 holds 5 rounds of .38 special +p in a lightweight and compact package.

  like the name says - cia...carry it anywhere..

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  LuckyLucy

  Last summer I got mugged.I have been taking kickboxing classes but I am seriously thinking about getting one of these babies.Do any of you carry any kind of protection??