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  HELP!!! HELP!!!! HELP!!!!!!

  by proudassmonkey in

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  ok i need some help from who ever has dealt w. their jw parents.

  this is the email i got from my parents: .

  dear melissa, .

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  Tashawaa

  There has been so much good advise - and depending on your family, your personality, beliefs, etc. in amonst the range of suggestions I'm sure one will hit home.

  I faced this with my family, and like you, I have one sister "out". At first the pressure was on to attend meetings, "come back", and we finally reponded that the only reason we would go back now would be to have a family relationship. It would not be motivated by anything else, which satisfied my parents and they have quit the pressure.

  I believe wholeheartedly in unconditional love. It is not something taught by JW's. If bringing out issues on thier faith will cause more disruption or hard-feelings, I would be inclined to avoid it. I would acknowledge their feelings and as was suggested by Maverick, treat them normal. YOU DON"T HAVE TO ADDRESS THEIR EMAIL. I'd ignore it. I'd talk about my life. It worked for me. I've had some distrubing letters, but I write back that I was glad to hear from them and I volunteered for the Food Drive. I've mentioned positive things I do in the "world" that we could not do as witnesses. They've softened over the year. I do not hide my beliefs (or lack of them), but I chose not to confront emotionally charged issues. As Amazing brought out, the purpose of these letters is for control, manipulation, etc. You don't have to play their game.

  My 2 cents. and BIG HUGS - its tough and there are no easy answers!
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  JW's preaching about the fall of all false religion., to the US government?

  by Vivamus in

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  when i was having study, an elder told me this story about how witnesses witnessed to the governments as well.

  and he told me this story about jw's preaching about the fall of all false religion., to the us government (?

  ) and how this was met with surprise, cuz the us (could also have been the un) had these plans about dealing with religions all along.

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  Tashawaa

  I'm in Western Canada and heard the same story as Razorblade. It was more recent (1998-99???). Apparently, some witnesses were talking to a UN Representative and told him of the bible's prophecy of the fall of false religion. The UN Representative was a little shocked, and told them that he couldn't say anything (big secret ) BUT that whatever "witnessing work they needed to do, they (the organization) better finish up quickly".

  Somewhat ominous. Methinks it is a unique JW Urban Legend.

  At the time though - I was excited (yet in the far back places of my mind, somewhat skeptical).
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  The right age to get baptized?

  by shotgun in

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  i've always wondered why it was ok for jesus to wait until he was 29 to get baptized in symbol of his dedication while jw's are pressured at such an early age.

  do you suppose joseph was always on his case...jesus get up its time to go to the temple.....why didn't you comment today?.......when are you going stop hanging out in gallilee with all your friends and get baptized?.

  is this just another control aspect of the wtbts, handcuff you to the org while your young and make it almost impossible to leave later when you mature?

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  Tashawaa

  Being raised in the religion, the threat of "disfellowshipping" was always over my head... I was from the generation that if you "came to a knowledge of the truth" and left or "sinned" you were "disassociated". It happened to my brother when he was a young teenager. He was caught smoking. He wasn't baptized, but non-the-less shunned.

  I think they changed this policy in the mid 80's???? Up until then even those that studied, and then stopped could be shunned afterwards.

  So, growing up in this religion, it didn't make a difference - baptized or not - you towed the line or you were disfellowshipped/disassociated. Now its different... the young ones who get out before baptism can have a relationship with their families.
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  Pardon my ignorance

  by Ariell in

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  what was the true motive for the wts joining the un?

  what did they have to gain?

  i've done research, but have yet to find an answer to my question.

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  I believe it has to do with being seen as more "mainstream" and a certain respectablity that would come with being a NGO... not only that but also associated with the DPI (Dept of Public Info), actually building a "grassroots support for the UN".

  This could be perceived by governments (that the WTBTS wants recognition in), that the Society has connections (within nations that recognize the WTBTS as a religion) and some "weight" behind it in influencing its membership. It is a political alliance and is recognized as such.

  My thoughts. I work for a large corporation, and the more I study the moves of the WTBTS - 'cause God knows I didn't when I was an active JW - the more I see it for what it is... big business, making big business decisions, with all the office politics and media, legal, etc. that supports CYA.
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  My Sister With Four Kids Is Losing Her Home-Any Advice??

  by Cicatrix in

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  i'm just kind of throwing this out there, because i'm at wits end.. my sister is about to be put on the street because she can't make her house payments.

  the poor woman works like a dog, goes to college full time (the college has no student housing), and takes care of four kids on her own.

  the kid's father (whom she divorced for cheating and saddling her with all his debts) moved to the other side of the country, supposedly to obtain work and send her back some money .

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  I'm assuming the bank has started Foreclosure????? What stage are they in? Is it a typical mortgage? Are both her and her ex on the mortgage? Is she in the States or Canada? Has she tried to talk to her banker (what is left on her amortization or amount of the mortgage)? I'm in the financial industry, and if I could get some details, I may be able to give some advice.... If you want PM me.
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  Sword of Jah: Re:Omitted Scriptures - NWT has no footnote explanations.Why?

  by AwakenedAndFree in

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  dear sword of jah:.

  the watchtower society omitted the following scriptures from their new world translation bible without a footnote explanation to readers explaining the reason of omission.

  here are the missing scriptures - i'am referring only to the ones i know - there may be more: .

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  Tashawaa

  "In some instances, they were taken from another part of the Bible and added to the text being copied by a scribe."

  Kinda' like taking the name "Jehovah" and inserting it into the Christian Greek Scriptures when around 5,000 available manuscripts of the CGS, LEFT THIS DETAIL OUT.

  Just an observation.
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  WARNING from JW - you never know who's posting

  by Tashawaa in

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  i found this at h2o - lmao!!!

  but the person posting was serious.

  "actually thats a good metaphor for true christian soldiers.

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  Tashawaa

  I've never seen so many "rolling eyes" - I've counted six!
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  WARNING from JW - you never know who's posting

  by Tashawaa in

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  i found this at h2o - lmao!!!

  but the person posting was serious.

  "actually thats a good metaphor for true christian soldiers.

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  Tashawaa

  I found this at H2O - LMAO!!! But the person posting was serious

  "Actually thats a good metaphor for true Christian soldiers. The internet is a virtual battlefield for strong opposing influences of evil and good to battle it out. The sad part is seeing spiritually weaker ones wander onto this battlefield and get mercilessly machine gunned down. Recently a sister posted on a closed members-only board that she heard of a rather disturbing situation on a major JW-only internet bbs out of Maryland - someone posing as a recently DF'd brother was harassing JWs and a sister on that board managed to track down this apostate with the help from some friends in her district who are in the investigative business. They helped her track this individual to a house in a small town up the coast. The house was for sale and they contacted the realtor whose name was on the account. The realtor wasn't even a JW and she denied posting on the online service. Phone records from a line in that house showed numerous calls to that same online service. These calls were all in the middle of the night. The realtor claimed admitted to having left her laptop computer running in the house 24/7 during the sale because the she used that house as her temporary real estate office. The sister was incredulous about this woman realtor's posing as an ex-JW apostate brother and delved deeper into the owners of the house. Evidently the house was owned by a JW family who were forced to move out because the house was "demonized"!! Start putting two and two together. The answer, in a word, is Unbelievable.

  Folklore or truth, this account has given me much pause for reflection on exercising reasonable caution in whom I fellowship with online sight unseen. Even though I doubt the credibility of her sources for this amazing story the Bible indeed warns about demonic forces in the last days. During Jesus time the demons performed supernatural acts in their attempt to imitate Christ. I don't blame anyone for questioning this tale and its implications. I'm like Thomas in that I have to see it to believe it myself. This might make a great tale to tell others around a camp fire over marshmellows and coffee ha ha!"

  Hmmmmm could-it-maybe-be-S-A-T-A-N Just a little SNL.
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  Who is addicted to John Edwards??

  by petespal2002 in

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  i stumbled upon 'crossing over' on living tv, also 'beyond with james van praagh' and i am absolutely addicted to them.

  i'm not sure i believe they are making contact, but they are amazing to watch.

  has anyone been to one of their seminars?

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  I've seen the John Edward's show and find it fascinating. I, like you, do not know if I "believe", but I don't see any harm in the show. If, at death, we're all "dead", then whatever we think now doesn't really matter, does it? I enjoy the emotional aspect of the show and the basic message to "love and appreciate our loved ones while they're here with us now". I've seen responses to this topic, and "cold reading" is often put forward as an answer to John's ability. Frankly, I have no clue how he does it and I don't completely accept the "cold-reading" logic.
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  Dumb article re:atheism

  by IronGland in

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  http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20030527.shtml

  lets discuss this crappy article and faulty logic.

  or perhaps you agree with it.

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  Tashawaa

  This article had me LMAO He is completely OBSESSED with monkey's typing a Psalm. Its mentioned throughout the whole article as though this is sound reasoning for a Creator. HELLO - am I missing something Anyhoo - my contribution...

  In his book God and the Astronomers , Jastrow tells of his surprise when so many fellow astronomers refused to accept the Big Bang hypothesis for the origins of the universe. In fact, Jastrow writes, many astronomers were actually unhappy about it. Why? Because the Big Bang implied a beginning to the universe, and a beginning implies a Creator, something many scientists passionately reject.

  What he fails to mention, (even if this statement is true), despite their emotional feelings, the theory has/is still being studied. That's what Scientists do. Besides, I don't recall the "Big Bang" theory being warmly greeted in religious circles. It implies life through an explosion, instead of a creator forming little balls and hanging them in space.