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  Account of Jehovah's Witness Women Prisoners in Auschwitz (very creepy)

  by objectivetruth in

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  a book titled written by a long ti me ss member .rudolf franz ferdinand hoess.

  here is a quote from this book : .

  "a pleasant contrast to this type were the female jehovah's witnesses, called "bible bees" or "bible worms.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Something that annoys me to no end is the Society's insistence that they are politically neutral when the history books show us something entirely different.

  In a further attempt to appease their enemies, Rutherford published statements in The Watchtower urging Bible Students to buy war bonds, participate in a day of prayer for allied victory and only stopped short of encouraging armed service.The Proclaimers book says:

  "Although they endeavored to do what they felt was pleasing to God, their position was not always one of strict neutrality … Thus, in accord with a proclamation of the President of the United States, The Watch Tower urged the Bible Students to join in observing May 30, 1918, as a day of prayer and supplication in connection with the outcome of the world war. [The Watch Tower, June 1, 1918, p. 174]" (p. 191)

  *** w80 11/15 pp. 26-27 par. 17 "Jehovah of Armies" to the Rescue! ***

  17 Like the Israelites of Isaiah’s day, the spiritual Israelites sold themselves because of wrong practices and came into bondage to the world empire of false religion, that is to say, to Babylon the Great, and to her worldly paramours. (2　Ki. 17:17; 1　Ki. 21:20,　25) An outstanding instance of this occurred during World War　I of 1914-1918

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  According to the 1934 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses, what did the Jehovah’s Witnesses actually tell Hitler regarding their "position" toward the "principles advocated by the government of Germany"?

  "The greatest and the most oppressive empire on earth is the Anglo-American empire… It has been the commercial Jews of the British-American empire that have built up and carried on Big Business as a means of exploiting and oppressing the peoples of many nations… The present government of Germany has declared emphatically against Big Business oppressors and in opposition to the wrongful religious influence in the political affairs of the nation. Such is exactly our position… Instead of being against the principles advocated by the government of Germany, we stand squarely for such principles." —1934 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses, pp. 134-136
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  Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter

  by lambsbottom in

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  wife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

  true?

  references?.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I do jest...and don't call me Shirley.
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  Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter

  by lambsbottom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Apog: Crazyguy and ADCMS, you should read blondie's quotes again. The Society is not saying that those who do not hear the message will survive.

  Apog, the WT is not consistent on this subject and opinions vary among JWs themselves, which betrays how the WT vascillates. Read JW Facts' comments.

  There's what is in print and there's the way things really are. You should know this, Apog.

  WT's answers on virtually any subject are contextual, and it has no problem waffling when the 'official' answer is too difficult to honestly address. Blondie's quotes are from '00, '07 and '10...ancient history in WT Land and subject to revision ad nauseum.
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  Br. Jackson Illustration: "Run, Idiot, Run!"

  by respectful_observer in

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  i'm not sure if this has already been posted and i just haven't seen it, but here's an email i received recently that gave me a chuckle.... ...................... run, idiot, run.

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  jackson of the governing body concluding a talk @ la district convention had this neat illustration at the very end of the convention.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  sir82: isn't this the guy who supposedly just got engaged? why bother to get married? Isn't that rather cruel to the young sister, if he's not going to be here for very long?

  It's cruel to the sister no matter how you look at it.
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  The Governing Body et al Should Have Been Disfellowshipped!

  by The Searcher in

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  when the wtbts association with the un & the osce was exposed, their own rules should have been rammed down their corrupt and lying throats!.

  thank you so much for the watchtower cd rom.

  you made a huge rod for your own back.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  NGO status has never been a requirement for accessing the UN Library. WT's lame excuse is entirely without merit.

  Even if it was a requirement, if WT followed its own standard compromise would have never been a consideration.
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  Account of Jehovah's Witness Women Prisoners in Auschwitz (very creepy)

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a book titled written by a long ti me ss member .rudolf franz ferdinand hoess.

  here is a quote from this book : .

  "a pleasant contrast to this type were the female jehovah's witnesses, called "bible bees" or "bible worms.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Few JWs know how racist, especially anti-Semitic, the WT was in the years leading up to WWII. Rutherfraud attempted to curry favor with Hitler by being ouspokenly anti-Semitic. It's no suprise JWs reflected that same mindset.

  Other authors chronicle that JWs were often not the greatest people in their camps, unloving to others and among themselves, with in-fighting and shunning. The quote posted above probably reflects more on individual personalities as to duties, but is reflective of group-think when it came to sheepish subservience.
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  January 15, 2015 watchtower 3 study articles about marriage.

  by hoser in

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  2. beliefs

  couples having problems and getting divorced must be a problem in the jehovahs witnesses.

  the articles are definately an interesting read.

  they give plenty of bad advise as usual.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  DD: They must perform works, be SOMEONE in the cult [ especially men ] to earn love. The authentic person is not good enough

  Everyone knows that the best basis for a fulfilling relationship is to marry an Elder or Pioneer. Authenticity is overrated.

  "Listen, [marry an Elder], and be blessed".

  If you are happy because you married your soulmate you are spiritually weak and deluded. If that person didn't have a title (Elder), then you made the wrong choice, regardless of how happy you are.
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  Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter

  by lambsbottom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  wife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

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  references?.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  wife says she always thought the WT said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

  It makes one wonder: aren't Jehovah's Witnesses doing people a disfavor by preaching to them?

  In other words, if a person gets a chance at Paradise Earth because they didn't hear WT's message, then they have a 100% chance if JWs do not preach to them !
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  Connecticut Law Tribune: Latest Sex Abuse Suits Target J.Ws

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.ctlawtribune.com/id=1202673073702/latest-sex-abuse-suits-target-jehovahs-witnesses?slreturn=20140911103232#ixzz3fqvmacjslatest sex abuse suits target jehovah's witnessesattorneys say religious doctrine barred reports of abuse.

  isaac avilucea, .

  the connecticut law tribuneoctober 10, 2014 | .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Thanks for posting this, Barbara.

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  I found this quote interesting:

  "What's it going to take for them to [turn from the two-witness rule]? Not being a Jehovah [Jehovah's Witness]. They are known for being extremely rigid. I don't see that going by the wayside any time soon."

  In other words, as long as someone remains a Jehovah's Witness, Watchtower policy prevails over common sense and doing the right thing. Loyalty to WT dogma is the primary concern, not child welfare.
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  Terminology the Society Hates?

  by toweragent in

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  in my most recent talk, i got counseled for using some terms that were not prefered.

  for example i said "new testament" rather than "the christian greek scriptures".

  i also used the term "gospel", but even worse, i made reference to the "synoptic gospels" and the "gnostic gospel".. i guess i never thought of it before, but when i looked at the societies information on the matter they always say things like, "the so-called new testament..." or "the so-called synoptic gospels..." why with all the "so-called?".

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Seldom have I heard of people dating referred to as boyfriend and girlfriend. Its always, "they are dating so and so".

  I've gotten chastised for saying "dating" instead of "courting". JWs don't "date".

  "Special" terminology and unique sayings are a hallmark of cults/high control groups. It makes you superior to everyone else if you know the secret words and have your very own decoder ring.