Ironically, the Bible as it is today, was compiled and canonized by the Catholic Church, the same Catholic Church that WT says is foremost among apostate Christendom.
[edit] DD, you beat me to it. You dog you ! LOL.
AndDontCallMeShirley
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Be honest post do all posters on this site believe the bible is 100% or has flaws?
by booker-t inwe in the psychology/sociology field have a saying "when people protest too loud usually they are overcompensating".
i did not understand that when i first started studying psychology but now i understand it completely and it is so true.
when i hear someone constantly bashing something or someone such as gay bashing or ethnic bashing or religion bashing sometimes i wonder what are they hiding.
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When did the Watch Tower society start posting on You tube?
by adjusted knowledge ini just found videos posted by the society on you tube.
i didn't even know they had an account there.
of course they don't allow comments.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
the speaker warns about all recordings. He even stated the same regarding notes. That you couldn't distribute notes.
Odd directions, considering the WT claims to be spreading a "life saving" message that must be preached before the just-around-the-corner, coming-soon-anyday-now event of Armageddon occurs.
'It's a vital message from god...but please don't talk about it'.
Uh huh.
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LET'S HELP JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TO LOVE APOSTATES
by Terry insimple application of logic to scripture interpretation:.
if two terms mean the same thing it should not change the meaning to exchange one word for the other.. first, jesus lays the foundation for us.
let us read.. luke 6:27-37 "but i say to you who are listening, continue to love your enemies , to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you.
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What if every time the Watchtower was about to print the word APOSTATE, instead they printed STRAY SHEEP?
Or, simply: fellow human being.
It's best to take religious/Bible references completely out of it. That way a JW might be able to think straight.
Of course, now we've stepped way over the line into The Twilight Zone, right??
Your point is well taken, though, Terry. The constant terminology JWs are hammered with colors their world and shapes their thinking in how they view people. Simple changes would make a huge difference...but said changes run counter to the agenda of WT, Inc. WT isn't in the love and, "can't we all just get along?" business.
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LET'S HELP JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TO LOVE APOSTATES
by Terry insimple application of logic to scripture interpretation:.
if two terms mean the same thing it should not change the meaning to exchange one word for the other.. first, jesus lays the foundation for us.
let us read.. luke 6:27-37 "but i say to you who are listening, continue to love your enemies , to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you.
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What do you think the chances are any JW would read it that way. . . EVER?
1. it's in the Bible, so it's unlikely a JW will actually read it.
2. the GB will never, ever tell JWs to read it that way so JWs will never, ever see it that way.
3. JWs have had this scripture available to them as long as they've existed. If they haven't seen it up to now, they won't with more time.
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Obstacle #1 for JWs: Continue becoming merciful
Obstacle #2 for JWs: stop judging
Obstacle #3 for JWs: stop condemning
Without these foundational tenets, what reason does a person have to be a Jehovah's Witness?
Going through life without being able to condemn and judge others would simply be: no fun. Provincialism is the last bastion of the weak...and without it JWs lose their entire identity.
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Other than that, you make a great point, Terry.
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Warwick, Class 5 Building project, Why?
by DwainBowman inso what is a class 5 project?.
it is one done to the highest standards.
paint & drywall, fit and finish, of everything to perfection.
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All workers are being told NOTHING BUT THE BEST WILL DO!
Hey, when labor is free, and maybe a lot of the materials too, why not demand the very best?
WT will fetch a higher sales price when it liquidates the property in a few years (at Jehovah's direction, of course).
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'Trusted' Jehovahs Witness raped and sexually abused girls
by cliff in'trusted' jehovahs witness raped and sexually abused girls.
court: barry furlong arrives at bournemouth crown court.
first published tuesday 9 december 2014 in news by jane reader.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
If you're "reading" pornography, you're doing it wrong.
I don't read pornography...I just look at it for the pictures. Reading is way too much work. LOL.
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My problem with Original Sin
by leftbelow ini found this quote in a book i was reading and it struck me this is why original sin is a problem for me.. damnation is the start of your morality, destruction is its purpose, means and end.
your code begins by damning man as evil, then demands that he practice a good which it defines as impossible for him to practice.
it demands, as his first proof of virtue, that he accept his own depravity without proof.
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Your code begins... demands that he start, not with a standard of value, but with a standard of evil
This is the insidious and destructive nature of religion and the fairytales it builds itself on.
Imagine how much better the world would be if the converse was taught as truth rather than the current lie: namely, that we all have worth beyond measure and have only to embrace and use it?
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How is assembly / district cost figured out?
by EndofMysteries inwhen they annouce that a 1 day assembly cost $30,000, do they pull that number out of their hienie?
i'm sure somebody on this site had been part of the paperwork trail for that.
for a building that's paid off, do they really have that many expenses and add them all up and divide by weeks of the month or make up a high inflated number to send a big bonus to wt?.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Most recent pedophilia case lost in court, divided by number of attendees = per publisher rent cost.
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Will the Societies tighten their grip even more with the power slipping?
by thedepressedsoul ini think its pretty clear that the gb are power hungry.
you cannot listen to the branch visit and not see clear as day that there are some of them that are loving the power.
it showed the clearest with anthony morris.. now all these sex abuse scandals and news media are taking their power away.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
sparrowdown: That's the second biggest bun I have ever seen.
What's the first?? Just curious.
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Will the Societies tighten their grip even more with the power slipping?
by thedepressedsoul ini think its pretty clear that the gb are power hungry.
you cannot listen to the branch visit and not see clear as day that there are some of them that are loving the power.
it showed the clearest with anthony morris.. now all these sex abuse scandals and news media are taking their power away.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
To add to DoC's list:
> using the generic "brazen" term as a catch-all in order to DF a person on any trumped-up charge a JC wants to use.
> The GB ramping up their self-aggrandizing tear by unilaterally declaring themselves the faithful slave.
> If anyone hasn't noticed, the title has progressed from "governing body" to "Governing Body".
> The WT's renewed focus on labelling anyone who disagrees with, or even questions WT, as an "apostate". A recent WT article warned JWs to shun even an active brother if that person talks about WT in a questioning manner.
> The recent largest money grab in WT history.
> "listen, obey and be blessed".
And, finally:
Paragraph 17 from the Stupefied (simplified) WT edition:
"At that time, the direction that you receive from Jehovah’s organization may seem strange or unusual. But all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether we agree with them or not, because obeying these instructions will save our lives." (W 11-15-13)
If that doesn't smack of desperation by escalation of control, I don't know what does.