Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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This religion is about to be toast.
by kneehighmiah in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the governing body is preparing to take a major hit.

this recent watchtower shows it.

not the new understandings, but the article on marriage.
AndDontCallMeShirley

It's astounding that WT prints this kind of rubbish considering that TMo3 recently said that any JW woman considering marrying a man who is not at least a Ministerial Servant is making a bad decision. A man who is not an MS or elder is not a man.

That, coupled with the laundry list of other rules, written and unwritten, that JWs must adhere to Re: dating/marriage, and WT remains befuddled why JWs are exasperated? JWs don't marry for love... they marry for the Organization. Not a great start.

Is the WT cult going away? No. There will always be gullible people who need someone else to do their thinking for them; there will always be people that guide themselves by fantasy and childish stories rather than grown-up reality.

Is the GB losing their grip? Yes. Fortunately, the ones who see through the nonsense leave the Org, but the GB still holds absolute influence over those that stay...and the cycle of abuse perpetuates ad nauseum.
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Be honest post do all posters on this site believe the bible is 100% or has flaws?
by booker-t in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
we in the psychology/sociology field have a saying "when people protest too loud usually they are overcompensating".

i did not understand that when i first started studying psychology but now i understand it completely and it is so true.

when i hear someone constantly bashing something or someone such as gay bashing or ethnic bashing or religion bashing sometimes i wonder what are they hiding.
AndDontCallMeShirley

Ironically, the Bible as it is today, was compiled and canonized by the Catholic Church, the same Catholic Church that WT says is foremost among apostate Christendom.

[edit] DD, you beat me to it. You dog you ! LOL.
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When did the Watch Tower society start posting on You tube?
by adjusted knowledge in
1. jw
2. friends
i just found videos posted by the society on you tube.

i didn't even know they had an account there.

of course they don't allow comments.
AndDontCallMeShirley

the speaker warns about all recordings. He even stated the same regarding notes. That you couldn't distribute notes.

Odd directions, considering the WT claims to be spreading a "life saving" message that must be preached before the just-around-the-corner, coming-soon-anyday-now event of Armageddon occurs.

'It's a vital message from god...but please don't talk about it'.

Uh huh.
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LET'S HELP JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TO LOVE APOSTATES
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
simple application of logic to scripture interpretation:.

if two terms mean the same thing it should not change the meaning to exchange one word for the other.. first, jesus lays the foundation for us.

let us read.. luke 6:27-37 "but i say to you who are listening, continue to love your enemies , to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you.
AndDontCallMeShirley

What if every time the Watchtower was about to print the word APOSTATE, instead they printed STRAY SHEEP?

Or, simply: fellow human being.

It's best to take religious/Bible references completely out of it. That way a JW might be able to think straight.

Of course, now we've stepped way over the line into The Twilight Zone, right??

Your point is well taken, though, Terry. The constant terminology JWs are hammered with colors their world and shapes their thinking in how they view people. Simple changes would make a huge difference...but said changes run counter to the agenda of WT, Inc. WT isn't in the love and, "can't we all just get along?" business.
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LET'S HELP JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TO LOVE APOSTATES
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
simple application of logic to scripture interpretation:.

if two terms mean the same thing it should not change the meaning to exchange one word for the other.. first, jesus lays the foundation for us.

let us read.. luke 6:27-37 "but i say to you who are listening, continue to love your enemies , to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you.
AndDontCallMeShirley

What do you think the chances are any JW would read it that way. . . EVER?

1. it's in the Bible, so it's unlikely a JW will actually read it.

2. the GB will never, ever tell JWs to read it that way so JWs will never, ever see it that way.

3. JWs have had this scripture available to them as long as they've existed. If they haven't seen it up to now, they won't with more time.

4.

Obstacle #1 for JWs: Continue becoming merciful

Obstacle #2 for JWs: stop judging

Obstacle #3 for JWs: stop condemning

Without these foundational tenets, what reason does a person have to be a Jehovah's Witness?

Going through life without being able to condemn and judge others would simply be: no fun. Provincialism is the last bastion of the weak...and without it JWs lose their entire identity.

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Other than that, you make a great point, Terry.
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Warwick, Class 5 Building project, Why?
by DwainBowman in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
so what is a class 5 project?.

it is one done to the highest standards.

paint & drywall, fit and finish, of everything to perfection.
AndDontCallMeShirley

All workers are being told NOTHING BUT THE BEST WILL DO!

Hey, when labor is free, and maybe a lot of the materials too, why not demand the very best?

WT will fetch a higher sales price when it liquidates the property in a few years (at Jehovah's direction, of course).
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'Trusted' Jehovahs Witness raped and sexually abused girls
by cliff in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
'trusted' jehovahs witness raped and sexually abused girls.

court: barry furlong arrives at bournemouth crown court.

first published tuesday 9 december 2014 in news by jane reader.
AndDontCallMeShirley

If you're "reading" pornography, you're doing it wrong.

I don't read pornography...I just look at it for the pictures. Reading is way too much work. LOL.
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My problem with Original Sin
by leftbelow in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i found this quote in a book i was reading and it struck me this is why original sin is a problem for me.. damnation is the start of your morality, destruction is its purpose, means and end.

your code begins by damning man as evil, then demands that he practice a good which it defines as impossible for him to practice.

it demands, as his first proof of virtue, that he accept his own depravity without proof.
AndDontCallMeShirley

Your code begins... demands that he start, not with a standard of value, but with a standard of evil

This is the insidious and destructive nature of religion and the fairytales it builds itself on.

Imagine how much better the world would be if the converse was taught as truth rather than the current lie: namely, that we all have worth beyond measure and have only to embrace and use it?
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How is assembly / district cost figured out?
by EndofMysteries in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
when they annouce that a 1 day assembly cost $30,000, do they pull that number out of their hienie?

i'm sure somebody on this site had been part of the paperwork trail for that.

for a building that's paid off, do they really have that many expenses and add them all up and divide by weeks of the month or make up a high inflated number to send a big bonus to wt?.
AndDontCallMeShirley

Most recent pedophilia case lost in court, divided by number of attendees = per publisher rent cost.
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Will the Societies tighten their grip even more with the power slipping?
by thedepressedsoul in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i think its pretty clear that the gb are power hungry.

you cannot listen to the branch visit and not see clear as day that there are some of them that are loving the power.

it showed the clearest with anthony morris.. now all these sex abuse scandals and news media are taking their power away.
AndDontCallMeShirley

sparrowdown: That's the second biggest bun I have ever seen.

What's the first?? Just curious.