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  What God isn't is what God is--isn't it?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  telling you what something isn't is the opposite of telling you what it is.. identification consists of verifying language.

  yet, those who speak of god have a tough time of it!.

  are descriptions and information about god useful or is it gibberish?.

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  Bob_NC

  I was about to say the same thing. :)

  Seriously, all good points. I have come to, God is what you find within yourself. God is not an experience outside of oneself.
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  Regret

  by elder-schmelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen 6:7. so jehovah said: i am going to wipe men whom i have created off the surface of the ground, from man to domestic animal, to moving animal and to flying creature of the heavens, because i do regret that i have made them.

  8 but noah found favor in the eyes of jehovah.. .

  does he still regret making us, or did he change his mind and now he is happy?.

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  Bob_NC

  Y'all are bad. Absolutely terrible.

  By the way, every time Jehovah cleaned house and killed off a bunch of folks, things got even worse before long.

  After the flood, folks got meaner than ever. After the ground swallowed up a bunch of folks in the wilderness, the rest kept on getting badder. The Kings of Judah and Israel, badder and worser. The regular people in Israel got a bunch of dirges pronounced against them by all the prophets.

  And one more thing, Jehovah doesn't like many people.

  Abel yes. Anyone else alive, no.

  Noah and his direct offspring and their un-named females, yes. No one else.

  Job yes. No one else at that time. When Satan said he would kill the kids, Jah was like "big deal."

  Abram yes. Only Abram in the whole world. Jah didn't really give jack about Isaac.

  Moses yes. No others, not even Aaron.

  Daniel and the 3 young men, yes. No one else.

  What's the count so far?

  Bob
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  My Mom has decided to turn me in... I am not afraid (Letter Inside)

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the only reason i am posting this is because i know many of you are going or will be going through something similar and wonder if it is worth it.

  i personally feel that it is worth it regardless of what i lose.

  my wife is backing me and i have my children.

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  Bob_NC

  They expect us to be vennom spitting vipers. We're not. Double post, sorry.
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  My Mom has decided to turn me in... I am not afraid (Letter Inside)

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the only reason i am posting this is because i know many of you are going or will be going through something similar and wonder if it is worth it.

  i personally feel that it is worth it regardless of what i lose.

  my wife is backing me and i have my children.

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  Bob_NC

  Yep, lovely woman your mom. Too bad about the mind control. May I suggest what worked well for me as I was leaving the Org?

  I was very nice and polite to everyone. I wanted to yell "Don't be freakin moron parroting this nonsense!!" But I didn't say it. Please be as nice as you can muster so as to heap the fiery coals on their heads. They expect us to be vennom spitting vipers. We're not.
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  My Mom has decided to turn me in... I am not afraid (Letter Inside)

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the only reason i am posting this is because i know many of you are going or will be going through something similar and wonder if it is worth it.

  i personally feel that it is worth it regardless of what i lose.

  my wife is backing me and i have my children.

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  Bob_NC

  Yep, lovely woman your mom. Too bad about the mind control. May I suggest what worked well for me as I was leaving the Org?

  I was very nice and polite to everyone. I wanted to yell "Don't be freakin moron parroting this nonsense!!" But I didn't say it. Please be as nice as you can muster so as to heap the fiery coals on their heads. They expect us to be vennom spitting vipers. We're not.
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  Beyond Bitterness?

  by DogGone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  like many, my path to the ttatt was a long and painful journey.

  i wasnt mature or intellectually honest enough to "wake up" while still an active witness.

  (i applaud those who have awaken while active; that is mental rigour i wish i had!

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  Bob_NC

  The natural reaction to being misled is to be mad as heck and to be bitter about it. It takes conscious effort to have a better experience. For me, it was realizing another truth, that even the GB are victims of the lie. Sure, they perpetrate it, but they are at the same believers of total nonsense. So who can you be mad at?

  I see a lot of people here still reference C of C by Ray Franz so I will too. His demeanor was without bitterness. It is a frank telling of events and what led him to TTATT. C of C might be something to reccommend?
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  $$$WTBS$$$

  by Kool Jo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what do you think is the real status of the wtbs in terms of cash/assets/wealth?.

  based on the following statements, what do you think?.

  1. due to the conti lawsuit, they've suffered.. 2. they're asset rich and cash poor.

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  Bob_NC

  Remember Sears, A&P Food Stores, Montgomery Wards, and Woolworth? Sure, they are still around select areas. Just sayin.
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  Judicial Meeting

  by Kool Jo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so here you are...sitting with a couple of elders at judicial meeting, and you're asked the following question:.

  "do you still believe that the fds is the channel that jehovah is using"?.

  now is it possible to answer 'no' without being df, or how would you answer that question?.

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  Bob_NC

  I won't be attending anybody's judicial meeting but I have thought about how I would answer that question. I would scoff and say outright that that is a ridiculous claim, and then ask what proofs they have that these men are who they believe themselves to be. Turn the question around and put the burden of proof on them.

  Whatever they say, just say, "Well that a pretty arrogant claim isn't it?" "How did they decide that the scripture applies to themselves?"
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  Newbie: Well I've been lurking enough and thought I should say hello.

  by Adventurousone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i really like this site and some of the comments i've read.

  i was in the organization for 31 years and now i'm free!.

  recently left the organization and am trying to rebuild my life.

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  Bob_NC

  It is so nice to hear each time someone breaks free. And glad to hear that you and your husband can enjoy being yourseleves together without living the WT life.

  What finally broke through to you? What is the spirit among the "brothers and sisters" nowadays? Is there still enthusiasm and true belief in the org?
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  I just informed the parents about me and the TTATT... heart wrenching

  by sosoconfused in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well first i want to thank everyone here for the good points etc... i have received over the last few months.

  you guys have really been helpful!.

  so the other day my mother wrote me a 3 page letter telling me how she was so scared for me because she could tell my love for the truth was gone etc.. so i decided i wanted to totally rip the band-aid off and get this matter over and done with.

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  Bob_NC

  sosonotconfused anymore. I am going back to read the responses in a minute. But first I wanted to say that your mom knows the deal. That is why she had to leave. You hit a nreve with her and she is not ready to take it. She knows in her heart that you are speaking truth, otherwise, your comments would not have had any affect on her. But they did! She knows..........