I believe in St.Claus. I have even seen him and beein sitting in his knees. I got presents from him several year. But since my dad diead he has not been coming any longer. I guess he must have been one of dads friends.
Bugbear
ablebodiedman posted~ 10 mins ago (8/16/2014).
post 741 of 741. .
"i absolutely 100% believe in god, jesus christ and everything recorded in the bible.. the reason why is because of the overwhelming amount of evidence.. there is so much evidence that it has taken me years to examine what has cemented my own convictions.".
I believe in St.Claus. I have even seen him and beein sitting in his knees. I got presents from him several year. But since my dad diead he has not been coming any longer. I guess he must have been one of dads friends.
Bugbear
isis, plain and simple.
if there is a god there is no way he.
would allow this to occur (beheading of james foley).
How came evil into the world and what has religion to do with it? This is the greatest philosophical question that you all must at least try to get a theory about before we all departure. This is one I have found rather ok.
Evolution creates lots of different species, among the finally humans. To survive, humans learn quickly how to strike first. Only those who´s got that talent, will eat and breed. But humans also are depending on a pack, a tribe, and a lot of other humans to help them just survive. When you have a pack of wolves r horses, or hens or whatever, always the strongest takes the lead. The strongest have a feeling that they must control the others in the gang, this in fact due to the risk of themselves being killed by some other from their own pack or to be overpowered from another nearby pack.
Now the constant war is on. Some of the leaders are( in many cases) mentally disturbed. They have Psychopathy, Asperger’s (high function) or just know that they must continue to lead their people. They need the help from a supranational power , which can kill, destroy any enemy and have the right to do it. They use “their god” to convince their people – that god is with us – you don’t have to fear anything if you just do as I tell you…..
World wars and enormous killing can start…..
I feel pity for all humans that are forced into this tragedy
Bugbear
i used to be very impressed with convention experiences regarding how worldly employers would hire jws because they were known as the most honest workers.
i was too indoctrinated to realise these were selective experiences, and there are plenty of experiences of jws being dishonest in the workforce.
i have received a couple recently by email.. i have cut quite a bit out of the following email i received so that the person and company cannot be indentified, but you will get the message.. .
My experiences being an employee of “a brother” owned company is that some brothers engage JW, so that they don’t have to follow the labor marked laws.
In my case a brother with lot of money wanted to expand his business to another city. And he couldn´t think of using any worldly person as an executive and leader of this expansion. So I was asked to take my family to this new city in another part of the land and set up this business. Since it was a risky operation, I was told to keep my salary expectations as low as possible, with a promise that as soon as the business was established I would be his companion and part-owner on 50/50% basis. Stupid enough no papers were written – we were after all “brothers”..
The whole of my family went and within 6 months this business was not only established but quite a success. Asking for normal salary with traditional insurance, and pension funds, when this company was running ok, the brothers said wait another 6 months, and you can take over the whole business.
I accepted and after 4 additional month I was told on the telephone, That this brother had sold “my” business to his worst competitor and I was told to pack my thing and hand over the keys to this new company. I was offered one month salary x-tra (the minimum.) Since everyone in my cong was aware of all this I spoke to the CO,s , but he informed me that the branch office couldn´t do anything. This “rich” brother wasn´t even questioned in a committee.
I admit that I was so stupid not to sign some sort of a legal paper. But I was so you young then ….
Couldn´t even imagine that a witness could threat other brothers this way…
Bugbear
atheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.
jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.
interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.
As an convinced atheist since many years I have often wondered why intelligent people with a religious mind still say they believe in a God. Is it because of lack of information? Is it something that is programmed in our genes? Or is it just because a low score in IQ tests? None of these questions seems to have un obvious answer? But recently an Idea has stroked my mind.
They believe in a god or gods because they want to.
With a faith in god Your future seems to be much better (either in heaven or with a never ending life on earth) . A faith in a God gives you some sort of a reason to continue life, there is hope!
Without a faith in God you have nothing to expect more than a total abolition. You will become nothing more than dust.
It is possible that when we went from only hunting to an agricultural human, and our frontal lobe started to grow, this part of a brain must protect itself from total chaos and disaster, by inventing I line of theory explanations, not to make us lunatic, in the hard world that surrounded us at that time.
What are your theories?
Bujgbear
atheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.
jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.
interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.
ex.WT.slave..
I am sorry to say you got it all wrong. The very basic for un atheist is: There is no reason to believe in an supernatural god!!!
your say qoute:" If human changes their attitude, within days all the problems of earth could be solved."
well you got a lot of problems left. Things like tsunamies, pestilence, earthqueke, voulcano eruptions, viruses (ebola), firestorms a.s.f. Did your god create them as well?
Bugbear
just saw this and while watching i thought 'he might as well be talking about the gb!
' both ways, he's telling it the way it is!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsl6mkxtolq.
LOL
Bugbear
i won't be lengthy on this.
i have been in the org for about 20yrs.
now & woke up about 2yrs ago.
Welcome NoMoreHustle
I was babtized 1973, an elder for more than 20 years. Started to fade 1995, and I am now out. My wife is still in, but my entire family, 6 children has joined me beeing out. It has been a hard time with my wife. But I still hope that the rest of us, me and my family will get her out without breaking her menthal health.
But I must tell you there has been good times during the last 20 years also...
Bugbear
Think –believe – proof and understand = fact? Truth?
There is no such reason chain. Facts alter all the time. And if you are not gods, you never know what the next truth will be. But it is very dangerous to hang up your believe in other people’s ideas. They could be very seductive and easy to accept, like readymade pancakes. You never know what the ingredients are. Often readymade products are made to make you addicted. Like drugs, alcohol cigarettes they are only made to make you by more, offering more of your life.
But read the Bible from your own moral standpoint. Do you really want to serve a god that kills all his children. Do you want to serve a god that in his law suggest “stoning” as an appropriate punishment?
Do you want to serve a god that could ask you to kill your own son in order to proof your loyalty to him?
Reading the Bible just raises more questions in our heads then it answers our looking for the truth, fact.
Bugbear
hi guys!
is anyone sensing an increasingly sanctimonious arrogance in j-dubs recently?
im asking this as i am finding that with the two major news stories in the last few weeks (ie.
It looks like many of you have fouled up yourselves in the believing that the Bible could predict anything about Gods behavior towards humanity. The Bible has long time ago been proven to be absolutely incorrect in both facts, moral ethics, and other issues, that humans could possibly be interested in. To interpret our future and end with the bible, its like reading coffee grounds. It is absolutely a dead end….. the only thing you will get out of it is confusion. (and not only that sometimes, it could cause mental problem)
Bugbear
the present moment is real.
however much you may remember the past or anticipate the future, you live in the present.
the next second of your life is the future.
The worst enemy that the WBTS have is ----TIME
Hoping that time exist
Bugbear