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  What Made You Finally Wake Up?

  by Tenacious in

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  hello to all.

  i've been on this site for a couple of weeks now posting here and there but have not had the opportunity to read about many of the regular members and what led up to their leaving the wt.. i understand that some of you (i'm part of this club) may not be able to disclose many details and i can appreciate that.. i'd love to hear what was it that finally made you renounce what is and hopefully soon to be "was" the wt.. i truly look forward to having good discussions.. thank you to all for your kind participation.. .

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  Facts made me wake up.....

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  PLEASE don't read this . . . if you have O.C.D. tendencies or are superstitious

  by Terry in

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  2. beliefs

  what if there were no such things as arabic numerals (0123456789)?.

  what if you only had your alphabet?.

  you could use letters as numerical values.

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  Thnks Terry! I mixed the two groups, "long time since examina" of course it was the pythagoreans that lived in suthern Italy. But I do like the ideology of the Epicureas better.

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  PLEASE don't read this . . . if you have O.C.D. tendencies or are superstitious

  by Terry in

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  2. beliefs

  what if there were no such things as arabic numerals (0123456789)?.

  what if you only had your alphabet?.

  you could use letters as numerical values.

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  Thanks Terry for inviting us to accurate knowledge on the Antique ideas that was very dominating at the time when most of the bible was written. I wish I had half of the knowledge that you obviously have. I think that you will find more interesting information about reading on the Epicureans, decedents from the ancient Epicurus, who believed they “had the knowledge”, through numerology. They called it “the secret”, and indeed they were very “secret” about their knowledge. It is very interesting to see hove the bible reflects many of these ancient ideas and that people who doesn´t understand this influence, still are trying to find the “truth” by bible interpreting.

  Thanks and LOL

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  We're not dealing with sincere anointed who genuinely believe their teachings but scam artists

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  looking at all the doctrinal teachings over the last five years, it's almost impossible for any person of conscience who originated such doctrine to do a complete u-turn and change it when the passage of time has proved beyond doubt that doctrine is no longer credible.. i say this with reference to the generation of 1914. they were so sure.

  it was part of the awake!

  masthead for decades that those who saw the events of 1914 would also see the great tribulation.. .

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  Anyone who claims to have the truth from the Bible or any other religious scripture is either mad or a fraud.

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  What is your GOAL ?

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone.. i think this is a big question.

  but how would you answer it in the simpliest of terms?.

  in simple terms my " goals " are :-.

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  I think that reading some of the scriptures from Epikure (ancient greek philosofer) could give you an answer of what many of us like to do with our lifes in our new freedom.

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  New ExJW here for the first time.

  by WideAwake7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am here for the first time ...but have enjoyed reading others experiences that i feel i can relate too.

  i used to be an elder for more than 20 years .

  i have successfully faded with my wife and children.

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  Welcome Wide Awake 7.

  I´m looking forward to hear your story, which is very similar to mine, except the fact that my wife is still in. Therefore I am still invited to "special occations" like funerals, weddings and others since my wife wants me to go. I am refusing, this not to embarrassing my wife, the funeral party, or the wedding couple. I sometimes have the tendency to answer "the friends" questions in an "arrogant way", this becouse I basicly think they are studpid. And that is not to good on a funeral/wedding party.

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  Find What Your Social Status Was in the Congregation

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ever notice how the "happiest people on earth" are also the most class-oriented?

  the social structure in the congregation is more complex than the blueprints of a nuclear warhead, but just so that you "remember your place", see if you can find where your niche was/is:.

  1. at the top of the social order of things within the congregation is of course, the presiding overseer and his family.

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  I guess I have been both 1 and 2 moving to 8. I was always dubious, what I was told to say as TM, and the instructions that was given to me when I had a speech at an assembly hall. Sometimes I felt that the CO/BO could see my doubts about some issues. Before I become Nr. 8 I resigned as an elder and did just “symbolic” service. After University and “accurate knowledge” “there was a “burning fire” inside me, and now my old friend doesn’t dare to see me again. If they start to talk the truth and try to help me back, for old times’ sake, I have some few Philosophical questions, that I drop to them and ask them to think them over and give me their personal answer, when they come back. (They never come back.) Here are a few questions I have used:

  1./ It is good that the Soc. Ended the theory of HELL, but why do they reinstall that hell in Armageddon again?

  2./ How come that humans situations as by far better, of when humanity killed GOD´s one borne son on a cross (or whatever) and humiliated him?

  3./ How can you love a father a God that over and over again kills his children, in a flood, with bacteria’s, with violent army’s, a.s.f.?

  4./ How can you believe that an ancient book written over 2000 ago, translated, transcripted, translated again, lost, refund, are a “wholly book”, especially when it inherits so many awful stories about punishments, sacrifices?

  And on and one I go…. Finally they hold their hands over their ears and rush away never to be seen again.

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  Next time a JW tells you that you shouldn't let your children go to college ...

  by EdenOne in

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  tell them this:.

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  eden.

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  I did have a college degree when when I was 20, but becomming i JW stopped further educ. It was ot until I bocome over 60 yeras of age i finnaly started on University, whitin the subjects of History of Ideas and Science, and Philosophy. History. I did have at least great fun the last 7 years. And today I am much more selfconfident talking to "religious" people.

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  BU2B comments on "Are you convinced you have the truth? Why?" WT article.

  by BU2B in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i want to start doing a wt review on certain articles.

  i think we need as much discussion as possible breaking down these mind control sessions.

  i cannot compare with blondie, but i will do my best.

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  Of course it´s a fraud. And so is everything that claims to have "the Truth", specially when they base their opinion on a "wholly book" the call the "word of God".

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  Evidence Regarding the Evolution of Cetaceans - Whales etc

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  this excellent little video sumamrises some of the evidence for the evolutionary history of cetaceans.. if focuses on comparative anatomy, embryology, fossils and dna.. .... .

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  It is a sad thing that we in the year of 2014 still have to educate people the very basic in modern science. Are the average human beeing dumb?

  Bugbear