tonight is the night...i'm going to have myself a nice watchtower bonfire.
every wts pub i own is going up in smoke...one by pathetic one.
the stack of mags, the books...including my two nwts.
Tonight is the night...I'm going to have myself a nice Watchtower bonfire. Every WTS pub I own is going up in smoke...one by pathetic one. The stack of mags, the books...including my two NWTs. The end is HERE, a mini WT Armageddon. yes...Yes...YES!
I also want to thank all of you who read and responded to my LETTING GO post. Your encouragement makes it easier. I know you understood and I appreciate the hugs.
Maybe not all 365 but 03 is going to be great! ENJOY yourselves!
i need some advice.
i have been dating this guy for 3 years.
of those 3 years, he has cheated on me many many times, but i can only prove some.
Yes, you are fooling yourself. Any man that cheats on you doesn't deserve a second chance. The fact that he did it numerous times means he is no good for you...no good TO you. It's only a matter of time and he will hurt you again, until then you're not going to be truly happy out of fear for that day.
Now, he HIT you on top of all that! Any man that physically harms a woman INTENTIONALLY deserves to be beaten down himself. I have no tolerance for that, nor does the LAW, nor should YOU.
Don't be stupid, get away from that boy pretending to be a man. If he truly has changed or truly can change he's already burned his bridges with you. ENOUGH is ENOUGH! Don't let your emotions keep you in such a bad situation. Do you really want to live your life in dread? Tell the truth...NO!
i was in chat early this morning with country girl and she posed a ?
i found kinda hard to answer................ .
i had to really think hard to answer this question.
I love the truth. Even while injustice is hard, true justice is what really smarts.
10 things i learned in 2002
1. sometimes life just sucks, take it and move on.. 2. scarlett was right, some things are best left until tomorrow.. 3. never count on someone else to look out for your best interests, if its important follow through yourself.. 4. home is where you lay your head down at night, wherever that is.. 5. dont even think this is the worst day of my life, it can get worse and you dont want to know how.. 6. keep your greatest treasures in your heart, youll never run out of storage space.. 7. give more love than you think you can, broken hearts do heal and heal stronger.. 8. everyone has two families, one they were born to and one they chose.
9. you can always make friends, start with hi.. 10. the greatest measure is not what you have, its what you are willing to give.. happy new year!!.
You have no idea how timely your post was for me. Thank You! I'll add these to my things to learn in 2003.
Happy New Year to you too!
some of you might remember that i fell in love with a jw.
that was two years ago and now i've decided to let her go.
i've done everything i know to do including trying to apply most every good thing i learned since meeting her.
Some of you might remember that I fell in love with a JW. That was two years ago and now I've decided to let her go. I've done everything I know to do including trying to apply most every good thing I learned since meeting her. I tell you friends I gave it my best. I read as many of their books and mags as I could, I studied with a bunch of witnesses...mostly elders, and I attended the meetings.
At the same time I was researching the WT history, the bare-bones WT doctrine (in present form), a zillion hours pouring through their "proof texts", and a zillion more just trying to figure out where in hell they got some of their foolish ideas.
Then I looked at the full on anti and ex witness environment. And finally the whole cult/mind control thing. I don't regret taking on the job of learning, but I do wish I could've condensed it into a few months instead of two years. I feel like so much of my time has been wasted, but I guess I should look forward to the next witness at my door...maybe I can make some use of the truth I have.
I wish there was a point to make, but since I don't have one I had to start this thread. Even if you don't post I appreciate you reading and caring. I figure now is a good time to let it go, give it to God, and start fresh with a new year. I could use a boost if you have one to offer.
I'm one of those guys that really tries NOT to use anger to get over a bad situation so my recovery will take longer than it might should. Although some of the crap the WT forces the JW's to so carelessly spew really plucks my butt hairs. The irresponsibility, the unaccountability, the unfounded authority, and of all things the deceit that hurts and even kills too many people.
It's gotten unhealthy for me to continue studying them, it's taking away too much of my life. I care about them but I'm no match for the WTS, one of Satan's better works. They really do have an answer for everything, however untrue, and they are simply good at doing bad. I wish it stopped there but JW's RELY on their identities as JW's.
I know the Bible speaks about hate but I've always felt that my little pea-brain shouldn't ever think I had the ability or understanding enough to hate. At this point I think I graduated. I hate what the WT does to what would otherwise be really good people. It makes them distrustful, it makes them elevate themselves above others, it makes them try to shoe-box God's love into what only they are worthy of having, it makes them deny their own God given talents and abilities, it keeps them from doing what the Bible says to do: love. I hate that they aren't taught Christian love. That hurts more than anything. The "one true religion" is the ONE that believes, has faith and trust in God, obeys Him, and understands and submits to the perfect system of grace and eternal life through Jesus. He is God in the flesh and our example to follow. And that the Holy Spirit is our comforter and counselor. That's IT! There's nothing to add. I understand people worship and praise differently but who am I, any man for that matter, to judge what is acceptable and pleasing to God? I can't even judge JW's...but I do judge the WTS to be the leaders of a false religion...no, not completely, I agree with most of their teachings...but what they are wrong about is monstrous, dangerous, and evil...mainly because they knowingly do wrong. Repentance not required of the GB? How about an apology...just one? I've never seen a truly compassionate WT article, they're always about fear. Joy my ass, they make 'em say it enough times and they believe it, just like so many other misrepresentations.
Well, you can see by now why I have to let her go, you can see why I have to let it all go. I don't remember a single day in the past two years that I didn't pull up some sort of WT/JW site or read some related book. I've gotta be done, please give me a push or a prayer.
I want you all to know that I feel you. I've read so many posts from people with bigger losses than mine and I really do identify with you in my own small way. You don't have to have been a witness to feel it, that unbearable ache on the subject of God. I've been a fool to try and do so much all on my own, I gotta get humble and start anew.
I hate the message not the messenger...I hate the WTS................you know, that wasn't so bad, maybe I will try a little anger, I might even deserve to be mad. Even Jesus got mad........hmmmm.
i'm considering hiring an intervention specialist.
i've read about randy at freeminds, steve hassan, rick ross, etc.
i belive they offer services to personally assist with jws.
I'm considering hiring an intervention specialist. I've read about Randy at Freeminds, Steve Hassan, Rick Ross, etc. I belive they offer services to personally assist with JWs. Does anyone here know anything about their work or others. Any intervention experience here? My JW friend hasn't been one for long, and really doesn't know the doctrines much less the history etc. I believe this might work. My friend's mom is willing to help. She seems to want the JW socially more so than religiously.
I wish I could get Randy, Steve, Rick, and Ray Franz all in a room with my friend. Think that would do it?
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being an ex-jw who would love to see my friends and other out of the jehovahs witness organisation i face a dilemma, is it always in a persons best interests to know the truth about the truth?.
when i first decided to leave the organisation, i was happy to speak to my family about why i disagreed with the organisation.then about 6 months ago my father was diagnosed with terminal cancer of the lungs (due to asbestos poisioning.if you think the governing body are corupt they are nothing compared to the people who produced this stuff).i have desided it best not to mention anything about the organisation untill my family recovers from my fathers death.. so since then i have not said a word about the "truth".that would be so counter productive to my fathers mental health, his and the rest of the families happiness can be only be found in the hope of a resurection , no matter how unfounded that hope is.. i have bumped into some elders from time to time who are in their late 70's and spent all their adult lives in the truth, how about them?there are many in the congregations suffering from depression and other mental problems, what would our knowledge do to them?should we be taking the intiative to help these out, or could we do more harm than good to them?of course i can't know how knowing what know about the truth will effect some people.will it make their lives better or worse.will it free some to fufill their ambitions and desires living a full and happy life or will others be full of regret , deprestion and sadness, maybe even some would comit suicide.. what part will i have played if its me that persuades them?should i wait to be asked about the organiasion, or should i take the initative, is it really up to me to judge who can "take" it and who can't?
This is a very timely question for me. I have gotten to the point with my JW friend that I wonder if she's better off not knowing than to go through what it would take to leave. Everyone, as opposed to what the WT teaches, deserves the truth. I believe God will forgive ignorance but I have shared enough things with her for her to search for herself, so I don't know where she stands in His eyes... not my call anyway. My hope has been for a long time that I could open her eyes and then really be there for her when it all starts falling apart. I also hoped that any resentment and anger would be directed at the WT, where it belongs, helping her to get through it. For myself, the truth is the only thing. It disturbs me to no end how they continually represent themselves as having the truth, even calling themselves "in" the truth. The big picture suggests that it would be better, no matter how hard, to get away from the WT. I just wish I knew the method.
i suspect i'm getting e-mails from someone i know but from a different e-addy.
is there any way to figure out if a message from msn hotmail is coming from the same computer as a yahoo e-addy?.
make it simple, if i were computer savvy, i wouldn't have to ask.
I suspect I'm getting e-mails from someone I know but from a different e-addy. Is there any way to figure out if a message from MSN Hotmail is coming from the same computer as a Yahoo e-addy?
Make it simple, if I were computer savvy, I wouldn't have to ask. Thanks!
many opinions have been expressed on this board as to what is killing the society today.
i am positive that issues such as the un scandal, the pedophile issue, etc.
are having a negative effect and contributing to a general slackening off and sense of malaise amongst the rank and file.
Maybe we should prophesy to as many JW's as possible the end of the 1914 teaching. We saw, far in advance, the coming new light. Making sure we remind them that their "one true religion" claim is based mostly on 1914/1919. We might also add that we expect the identity of Christ as Michael the Archangel to change as well. The newer books are evasive of this teaching too. Tell them when it happens, whether sooner or later, that they have your number if they'd like any more light. In the meantime gather all the quotations that spoke so confidently about 1914 and their "appointment" in 1919.
This is far and away the best feeling I get about the WTS, their tragic end.
before i had started studying with the jw's i had tried to read the bible.
it didn't make sense to me.
(in all honesty, i didn't try real hard nor did i put forth alot of time into my readings).
Lefty, can you call yourself a lover of the truth? If so, why are you still promoting the WT as a capable (truthful) leader of the so-called one true religion? They have made more mistakes, mistakes plainly described in the Bible, than any religion out there. Yet they still claim to be God's ONLY representative?
It goes like this, Chuck tried hard to make a good way. Instead he made mistakes, GROSS errors. An abusive drunk takes over and with the "gift" of a lying tongue tried to salvage what he saw to be a profit center. A few more false teachings and false prophesies later, it's only an org that has had to escalate their claims or actually admit the truth and deminish. It's self-preservation, pure and simple. Why shouldn't any of us expect GREAT things from the ONE TRUE religion?
Wolves in sheep's clothing who deceive many...about 6 million at last count. Any good thing they've ever done is duplicated ten fold in God fearing churches everywhere.
