i've been a lurker for quite some time and enjoy the forum.
i've reached a point in life where i don't argue ideologies anymore so i don't have much to say.
i've been out for decades and believe i've been mostly de-cultabilized (if that's even a word).. my family is still in and i haven't had contact with them in years.
Welcome Mark!
You're sure right about how much the religion has changed over the years. I hardly recognize it.
If anyone is an "apostate," it's the WT leadership. Each new regime has successively apostatized from the previous one.
Let's review: It's a cult!
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http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.
did any of you guys sit down and read this??
it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .
Ashe: You can try to do a search for do not destroy but you'll come up with child abuse, you'll come up with adultery, you'll come up with bigamist marriage, you'll come up with slander, fraud, murder any abhorrent sin.
Wow, would have loved to have been there for THAT MOMENT!
it's all about the money.
a simple business model.. .
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Welcome. It would be good if you posted an explanation of your thesis in your first post.
Your thread titles are intriguing, but the lack of exposition is only frustrating.
so i asked my wife to take the "spiritual belief system" quiz online.
now, this is not claiming to be a scientifically accurate system to determine your religious affiliation, but i thought it would be an interesting exercise.. for those who haven't seen it, the questionnaire is here:.
http://www.selectsmart.com/religion/.
When I took this I came up as a Secular Humantist at the top, JW at the bottom.
Very accurate!
ok, so, brother morris seems to have gone out on a limb with his comments about tight pants.
yup, he's an opinionated man.
but, i fully expect that there will be some reference to the scientific wisdom behind his words.
Stillin: BUT, I fully expect that there will be some reference to the scientific wisdom behind his words.
OMG, you need to come into the 21st Century. Actually, if you even joined the 20th Century, it'd be an improvement.
Here we have electric lights and indoor plumbing.
during my final few years being active with the jws i noticed that the vast majority of people who were studying or joining the group in general where those that the rest of society would consider disabled and/or severely mentally ill. now by disabled i dont mean i lost my leg in nam kind of disabled... in some cases these people were mentally retarded, had the minds of children, were severely abused as children or even as adults and as a result had personality disorders that put them on the edge of society.... and then we had the full on crazies... about 15 years ago one of the brothers who worked at the local welfare office somehow started a study with a person who was a paranoid schizophrenic.
he met her because she was a client of the welfare office.
she got handed off to a sister who studied with her, then started driving her to her doctors appointments, and to get grocerys, and took her to congregation events.
No, they try to exploit everyone. The most vulnerabler, however, are just that: vulnerable.
Let's review: It's a cult!
anyone who is a witness or was previously a witness, is aware of the written & un-written rules concerning association with disfellowshipped family members.. there are a multitude of quotes through out the watchtower publications, but these 2 will suffice.. "are you proving yourself holy by not associating with family members or others who are disfellowshipped?
"the clear instruction in the bible is: avoid them.
that means that we have to stay away from them... the bible says that apostates are mentally diseased and that they use their teachings to make others think like them... what must we do to avoid false teachers?
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PS: I hate this fucking religion. The rules, policies, practices and procedures have stolen my children from me. If I ever could find a way to get my hands on the people responsible for this, I would be sure to make them confront what they are and what they have done before I ended their pathetic lives.
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anyone who is a witness or was previously a witness, is aware of the written & un-written rules concerning association with disfellowshipped family members.. there are a multitude of quotes through out the watchtower publications, but these 2 will suffice.. "are you proving yourself holy by not associating with family members or others who are disfellowshipped?
"the clear instruction in the bible is: avoid them.
that means that we have to stay away from them... the bible says that apostates are mentally diseased and that they use their teachings to make others think like them... what must we do to avoid false teachers?
The fact is that Jesus Never shunned anyone
Let's review: It's a cult!
hey guys, here's something to think about.
in my country there's a small town of a few thousands people were most people are jws.
can you image what's like living there?
Sounds like a nightmare.
Inbreeding at its worst.
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.
did any of you guys sit down and read this??
it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .
IMHO, the PMQ is NTQ. Indeed, he's PFS. Seriously, WTF!?!
We all know TTATT and they're just in CYA mode. It's SNAFU.
GTC.
