Posts by Oubliette

if you were somehow magically put in-charge of the governing body tomorrow, by jesus, with the rules being, you could not teach anything that would be considered outright apostasy and you could not teach anything that would be considered to cause doubt about god's existence... (so as not to arouse suspicion).

what "new light" or "clarified understandings" would you introduce first?.

and which later on?.

Oubliette

You say "put in charge" but then you put conditions and restrictions on this hypothetical role that make it impossible to do anything.

That being said, every GB that has come along has apostatized from the last. So your "what if" is a fail from the start.

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Has anyone had a jw hack into their email/tablet/phone etc to spy?

by purrpurr in

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i note stillin has had a recent problem with this.

i also know of two cases were an elder went through a brothers phone to get dirt on him.

and another were a sisters email was hacked into to get dirt on her.. in both cases apparently it was for their spiritual protection (!

Oubliette

Dude, if anyone went snooping through my phone, computer or anything, I'd put them through a wall.

WTF, if they don't respect boundaries then teach them to.

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Why are JWs so against debate

by enigma1863 in

if the jws follow proverbs 27:17 they should not be afraid of any tension or friction.. in order for iron to sharpen iron you need pressure, tension friction and a bit of heated debate..

Oubliette

Because they'd lose. Duh!

Let's review: It's a cult!

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It came in today's mail

by Virgochik in

it came today, the dreaded envelope containing my personal copy of "return to jehovah" from my elderly, desperate mother.

it included a small note asking me to read it over and to let her know what i think.

she got it at her assembly.. firstly, i'm angry that she continues to push her religion on me, given that i stopped attending meetings over thirty years ago, and very offended that she assumes that i still want to be a witness, which is her choice of religion, not mine.

Oubliette

I take it you're not DF'd or DA'd, just faded, ... 30 years = an extremely long fade.

Why does this irk you so? You need to get to that.

Suggestion: Say, "Thanks mom!" and ignore it.

Invite her to lunch or dinner and talk about other things. Every time she brings up "all things JW," simply say, "That's nice," and change the subject.

Take control of the frame and stop letting your mum's religion get to you.

It only controls you if you let it.

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BOE May 27, 2015 Re: Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall Construction Worldwide

by wifibandit in

thanks stayedaliveafter75 !.

http://imgur.com/a/ccnus.

pdf download from google or mega..

Oubliette

God needs money ... again!

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Being marginalised by JW's and family, how to combat it?

by Crazyguy in

when one leaves the religion and fades it starts to become obvious that they move on with out you but this is not enough for them so they also marginalize you, loose respect for you etc.

they even tell stories about you.

example my wife talking to my mother tells her that i now believe aliens came to this planet and created man.

Oubliette

Example my wife talking to my mother tells her that I now believe aliens came to this planet and created man.

Call them on their bullshit.

Confront them with their hypocrisy.

Why do people that claim to have "the Truth" need to resort to lies to defend their beliefs and tear down any and all that disagree?

Refuse to be a victim.

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Awake! The silent treatment

by punkofnice in

an awake!tm article about shunning spouses.. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201306/the-silent-treatment/#?insight[search_id]=f6240b1c-2a33-4ac9-a50b-f2130feaa43e&insight[search_result_index]=0 .

apparently it's retaliation and manipulation.. i wonder what they think about shunning df'd or da'd victims?.

Oubliette

MW: Oubliette, you still there to edit your post? You did such a nice summation, but forgot one thing they also mentioned -- it "prolongs conflict" !!

Nice catch!

I wish I could add it to my list, but you did for me!!!

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WATCHTOWER AND BULLSHIT VIEWS ON SCIENCE (THE WATCHTOWER JUNE 2015)

by TerryWalstrom in

the watchtower june 2015 (bullshit).

the latest watchtower (online at j-dub dot argh!

) features a hilarious article.

Oubliette

It's strange they'd quote Steven Weinberg. He's well known for this observation:

“With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”