so i am the weird case that i still believe in the jehovah's organization.
there are a couple of things that stop me from going.
is there anyone else out there that still believes?
True, they're not perfect, but the rub is that they claim they are. They claim they are the only true religion because only they are doing everything right.
You can't claim to be the only true religion whose leaders are inspired by God (a high standard) and then in the next breath claim imperfection as the reason they got things wrong. And, oops, sorry about that, folks
So, if they admit to being imperfect, then there's nothing inspired coming from them that needs to be obeyed at all costs!
christians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.
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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .
Yes, keep us posted.
FaithfulWitness documented her personal bible study with 2 Witness ladies in several different threads on this forum. It was extremely interesting and had quite a few views.
You may want to look these up.
i can recall sometime ago in the 60`s 70`s or theirabouts,it when they first printed their own songbook must have been before the org.copyrighted their material,and the reason they did that is because some brothers were stealing the tunes ?
maybe modifying them and passing them off as their own for commercial gain?
( i know some of you are going to say wtf ?
Welcome, Calvin. You sound like you've just about had enough!
It's great to hear from folks who personally remember some of this stuff.
I remember the magenta songbook. The absolute worst song was, "Firm and determined in this time of the end, something something the good news to defend," and then something about faces...
It sounded absolutely evil.
who'd have thought it possible?
but that's a headline this morning in the canberra times.. us-cuba diplomatic breakthrough: obama and castro agree to thaw relations after prisoner exchange.
date: december 18, 2014 - 5:37am.
Yes, just watching this on the news. Apparently Obama still needs some type of approval from Congress, though not too sure about those details.
i listen to one of these all time in our hall.
she brings it up constantly about how they would do this or that but he has to work that saturday.
i think she should get a job and then he could find a lower paying 9 to 5 job..
Years ago you could support a family on one income. Now you can't in most cases.
if you are/were an active jw, you are now here on jwn so, for whatever your reasons, you woke up to some degree- hopefully a great degree.
so what i am saying may not apply to you.. i know that if i had not already left, i would have stormed out on the day they studied "overlapping generation.
" i am quite confident i couldn't have stayed for such an obvious switcharoo just to make the end seem imminent and try to explain how wts was wrong, but not entirely wrong in the past.. but i had to wonder how that change (or others) didn't cause most jw's to walk out.
This is a great comparison, OTWO. In real life, I don't know many adults who actually believe magic is real. They might go to a magic show just to be amazed at the slipperiness of the human mind or at the incapacity to see that things might be working differently than they at first seem. But, they don't believe it is actual "magic."
Children might be fooled. They don't have enough life experience to know what they don't know. Likewise, Witnesses don't have enough exposure to the real world to realize they might have been fooled. Children grow up and gain experience, but Witnesses stay in their own world without much exposure to critical thinking.
Like some have said, some people's minds are more predisposed to doing the critical thinking necessary to deconstruct the circular logic, and those are the ones who escape. But, those who just aren't critical thinkers and who like to be followers have a much more difficult time thinking outside of the Watchtower magic box.
court bars kids from jehovah's witness activities.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/64209712/court-bars-kids-from-jehovahs-witness-activitieshttp://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11375208bangalore.
The judge found there were " further episodes of religious activities." LOL. Makes it sound like a chronic illness.
giving my speech.
being pinned by my son.. .
the best day ever.. .
Many good wishes. You look extraordinarily happy, and so does your son!
this has got me really wound up and i feel the need to post.
our friend an ex jw has just returned from a famous christmas market in germany, now my husband mentioned this to his mum as they have connections there.
she got all excited about how amazing the german christmas markets are there and how she would of def gone to one this year if she had the time!
I don't know what a Christmas Market is, but it sounds like a place I would love to check out!
Yes, the hypocrisy is galling. A big one in the States is that JWs don't celebrate Independence Day on the fourth of July, but it sure is okay to go watch the fireworks in the evening! We had to set a study straight once when she told her children to pull down the shades so they didn't accidentally see any fireworks and "celebrate." Not necessary we told her.
i continue to be saddened by the fact that i am married to such a selfish man.. i want to know if i am the only wife who has no say when it comes to using the house she lives in for activities including other people.. .
let me explain.. yesterday my daugher who is 35 got a new puppy for my grandaughter who is 13. today my daughter and son in law are going to help my uncle at a job, and my granddaughter wanted to spend the day here, my daugher said shed bring her and the puppy over, i laughed and said 'your dad wont have that, ill have to go to your house'.. after all it will 'upset' the 2 cats they will hide all day [like they do anytime someone including my grandchild is in my home] .. i already knew that he would not like it if she brought the puppy over, [weve had dogs so its not like he hates them].
he doesnt care if his grandaughter would have enjoyed playing with the puppy over grandmas house, where she likes to be for a change, and that fact that id like to see what my cats would do when they saw a dog for the first time in thier lives.. maybe id have liked to play with the puppy .. when i said to my husband that my daughter said she wanted tp bring them over he said.
If your name is on the deed, you own half the house. You're probably entitled to half his retirement already even if he's still working. You have more power than you realize.
So, go to a counselor, sure. They're going to ask you what you want out of life, and if you're not getting that in your marriage, then why do you stay?
What kind of payoff are you getting by staying? Security? Is that enough to trade for the negatives that you are dealing with?
A counselor will help you this kind of an inventory, but the bottom line is :What do you want?
Do you really know what you want right now?
