So.......they're living a double life, right?
The entire organization of 'em.
"Lying for the Lord"
GrreatTeacher
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The Wwatchtower turning into a real laughing Stock
by Overrated inover the years watchtower has turned into a real joke in the world scene.
with the lawsuits, downsizing and decreasing numbers.
what they use to be is gone and they will never recover the numbers they once had.
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Jw spokesman Says door to door preaching not coming back!
by nowwhat? inhttps://youtu.be/uaaztatkhkg.
hope link works.
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GrreatTeacher
They'll never admit it to the rank and file, but they can discuss it at their weekly meetings.
Their first job is to decide which way they want to push the organization.
Their second job is to sell it to the minions.
Their third job should be evaluation of results. But God knows they don't do that or they wouldn't be in the crisis they are in.
If they don't believe they're in crisis, well having a huge amount of their followers only in because of family should be ringing alarm bells. One black swan event could cause the whole thing to tumble down, donation money going with it.
And maybe Covid has been that event.
How do they know that people will show up again if they open back up the Kingdom Hall doors?
They should be very afraid.
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Whatever Happened To The Flu?
by minimus inhas the flu vanished?
has it been replaced by covid?
no one is talking about making sure you get you flu shots.
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GrreatTeacher
I got my flu shot.
Sanitary procedures like handwashing, maskwearing and social distancing have not surprisingly reduced the transmission of the flu virus.
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Jw spokesman Says door to door preaching not coming back!
by nowwhat? inhttps://youtu.be/uaaztatkhkg.
hope link works.
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GrreatTeacher
I think WT needs to clarify what its goals are.
If the goal is to maintain a high control religion/cult then they'd better figure out a replacement for door to door work.
It keeps people too busy to think logically about the whole thing and keeps them in the organization. It's a great coercion tactic.
But, what if the goal is to simply keep the money rolling in?
That can be done successfully without needing high control or coercion. Plenty of religions stay in business with parishioners voluntarily donating money.
People need to feel like they are getting something, though. A feeling of community is something many people seek from religion. It seems to be the reason lots of JWs are stuck in.
It seems WT needs to fine tune the way to keep people in voluntarily and donating by giving them something of value. People want community. Find ways to provide that feeling, drop the religious coercion, and, bingo, the money will still roll in.
Most people are no longer interested in convoluted religious ideas and are still in because they are held hostage. That is WTs problem. That is the cause of their falling numbers and bad PR.
It's basic marketing. You have to create something people want before they'll buy it voluntarily.
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UPDATE: Wife Pretty Much Knows That I Don't Believe
by JW_Rogue inwe had a nice long talk and i brought up some things that make me think that this isn't the "truth" and she somewhat agreed with me.
i stuck with things i personally experienced or had knowledge of plus all the changes in recent years.
she agreed on a lot of the points but still believes in god and the bible.
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GrreatTeacher
OMG! This is great news!
If you care to add any more details I would love to hear them.
Also, how is her family taking it?
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My son's observation: Mom wants to believe, But really doesn't that's why she can't defend her religion
by goingthruthemotions inmy wife has been off the rails lately.
she is not really a loving mom or wife.
she is upset that me and the boys don't believe the same crap as her.
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GrreatTeacher
GTTM, this struck me as an extremely brilliant observation for a teenager! ( I think you said he was a teenager.)
Honestly, I'm a teacher and I kind of have an idea of the way kids think, and this type of emotional analysis is very sophisticated for a young mind.
Good job, Dad. If you've been teaching him critical thinking, it's working!
Sadly it's often the kids who have been in emotionally difficult situations who are extremely adept at understanding emotions, motivations etc.
Tough way to learn, but this skill will be so useful to him for the rest of his life.
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The Craziness of JW's.
by Overrated inmy dad and i would work on different "pioneers" vehicles in our kingdumb hell.
and to nuts and bolts they where real "hoopties" anytime ready for the crusher.
both my dad and i would work with our skills to keep their cars running since they don't have a real job to get a real working car.
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GrreatTeacher
I always thought the JWs would be better off if they followed the Mormon pattern: had people pioneer for two years when young and then get real jobs so they could donate back to the organization.
They really can't think farther than the end of their sleeves, can they?
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Rotator Cuff Surgery: Anybody Have Experience?
by GrreatTeacher inmy husband is going in on tuesday to have surgery to repair a badly torn rotator cuff on his right shoulder.
he is right handed.. he's 51 and is great about exercising and staying in shape.
however, while doing push ups, his shoulder just snapped.
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GrreatTeacher
Day 3 after surgery and things are going according to plan. He's weaning himself off of the pain meds and appears more alert and mobile today. I am hearing a lot of grunting and sighing right now, so I expect he might take half a pill and take a nap.
He has a squeeze ball attached to the end of his sling that he's supposed to be squeezing to keep the blood flowing. Tonight is the big night when he can take the bandages off and get in the shower. They're almost like plastic coated and are stuck on so generously that he looks like he's wearing football shoulder pads. They should be fun to peel off tonight. Not.
Then he can start his arm sliding exercises. He can slowly start moving his arm forward, "but no wing flapping" so no chicken dance for him.
We got these amazing pictures from the surgery which we have no idea about. The surgeon was in another surgery when he was discharged and he called my husband later on that night when he was sleeping and his phone was turned off. We go in next Thursday for removal of stitches, so we'll get the whole scoop then.
My discomfort was a minor bit in this process, but I was not allowed in the surgery center, so I spent 3 hours outside in my car. Neck spasms and sciatic nerve pain for 2 days. How annoying. And it was cold and dark because he was the first surgery. We were there at 6 am. I had to keep turning the car on for heat every 20 minutes or so. They did let me in when he was in recovery, though.
Thanks everyone for your words of wisdom and advice.
And it's Friday, so have a wonderful weekend!
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Tiger Woods
by minimus inwhat do you think of him?
i know he’s a great golfer.
we know he just got into a major car accident (again).. i respect his golfing abilities but personally i’ve never cared for him and i think the press glorifies him sooo much.
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GrreatTeacher
Golf is the most boring sport in the world.
I mean, is it a sport? You burn no calories. You get no exercise. Well, you might've in the good old days before golf carts.
Golf is just one big old question mark for me. I don't get it.
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Prove That Jehovah’s Witnesses Do Not Have The “Truth”
by minimus insomeone is researching jehovah’s witnesses.
they happen to come on to this site.
do the witnesses have the truth??.
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GrreatTeacher
Funnily enough, they've proven they don't have the truth themselves.
Every time they claim the light has gotten brighter to explain a changed teaching they're admitting they were wrong before, and therefore didn't have the truth.
It becomes a case of a past truth that is no longer true. And then the English language ceases to make sense.