Exactly as I was thinking.
When the GB were basically unknown, you could assume they were competent...
...until they opened their mouths and proved that assumption unfounded.
Maybe they might consider the value of staying out of the limelight again?
one of the contributing factors to me leaving was the realisation we were being led by idiots.
bethel life reinforced that, middle aged ego's trying to suck up to brooklyn.
ray franz book was a final nail for me, because he described the same incompetence along with the same ego's.
Exactly as I was thinking.
When the GB were basically unknown, you could assume they were competent...
...until they opened their mouths and proved that assumption unfounded.
Maybe they might consider the value of staying out of the limelight again?
hi guys.
i actually have had dealings with rod and found him to be a very reasonable and "non-robotic" man in the past.. i know it should not surprise me, but i was disappointed to hear his lies and half-truths.. they know their stuff and are not easily led, but he tried to lead the royal commission to believe that 2 people could be involved in investigating a claim - which is wrong.. his lack of memory on what parts of the judicial process are biblical - hello - none are.
there are no scriptures that backup the use of 3 men, a body of elders, cutting people off from family and friends, restrictions, etc.. he also lied about the gb being involved in policy creation and changes.. his statement that in all cases, elders are told to inform parents that they can go to the authorities and get the full support of the congregation is not verifiable.
Spinks' testimony was probably the worst for the JWs.
He was belligerent, arrogant, defensive, refused to plainly answer questions and read scriptures instead. He attempted to "teach" as he would in the Kingdom Hall, not realizing that that was very disrespectful and inappropriate.
His behavior was the worst with the female solicitors.
Thank goodness Justice McClellan intervened on many occasions and forced a clear response.
McClellan made it clear that despite their good intentions (which Spinks blew a gasket trying to defend) that their PROCESS nevertheless leaves children at risk!
Why is that so terrible to admit and address? A little contrition would go a long way. Instead he comes off looking like an ass and a not very sympathetic one at that!
since waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.
but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".
it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.
since waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.
but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".
it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.
Yes, it's very culty.
When my mother talks about Brother Jones, I'll look slightly confused and respond, "Oh, you mean Bob Jones?"
Then we continue the conversation referring to Bob rather than Brother.
I always force normal conventions.
january 25, 1788 - .
- the first 9 ships to carry prisoners from britain arrived at port jackson.
nine ships carrying 759 convicts and their guards left portsmouth on may 13, 1787, and arrived at what would be the first penal colony in australia, new south wales.
i've been catching up on the videos and news articles.
the elders, lawyers, branch members, hired reports are all getting slammed!
that dude has a response and point to bring up on everything!
Really crazy that none of them seemed to have read the witness statements.
Why? It's stupid on their part to not read up on the relevant information before testifying. It shows disrespect for the proceedings and also handicaps themselves.
Dumb, dumb and dumber.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
when i was in school, you never heard about critical thinking skills...not till you started taking college level courses.. i work closely with the public education community.
now, the big rage in public education is instilling critical thinking skills from kindergarten on up.. and i'm in texas!
imagine what it's like in more liberal areas.. i would not be surprised if the watchtower started denigrating and discouraging public education (k-12).. it would likely start like this: .
let me preface this by saying that i don't expect anyone here to make my decision for me.
i do however note that like the bible says, in the multitude of counselors there is wisdom, and this is a huge decision, so i wanted to put it out there for discussion.
i really appreciate your words of wisdom, as this affects not just me but my wife also, as we find ourselves in the same boat.
Dubstepped, you don't have to hide anything. You don't have to talk about it even if others confront you and you can just ignore the elders if they invite you to a jc.
Just walk away.
It's a mental step and I understand that it's difficult
But, you owe them nothing. Not even a conversation.
This is not fading. This is walking away and damn the consequences.
the monsters inc. hierarchy taught its workforce to use scare tactics to achieve its goals.. it took sully & mikey to reveal that love & laughter was far more effective - and beneficial for everyone concerned!.
interesting concept, but it'll never catch on!
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That was my son's favorite movie when he was about a year and a half old.
He was never afraid of things hiding in the closet. I think he was kinda wishing for Mike and Sully to jump out of his closet one night.
I know as a teacher, in general, love and laughter work better than scare tactics as well