Posts by WingCommander

last night was the "body viewing" at the funeral home for the jw whose friendship and influence resulted in my getting baptised in 1963. we weren't just friends.

we had a david & jonathan bromance :) no seriously, we loved each other dearly.. it's only in the last 2 years he shunned me.

before that, he would sneak behind the curtain of stealth, so to speak, and we'd sit for hours each and every week chatting, reminiscing and sometimes arguing about the truth about the "truth.".

WingCommander

Those same people that gave you such "warm fuzzies" at the funeral, if you saw them again next week would shun you like you are a rapid apostate dog. They are in a cult, plain and simple.

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Breaking news - from reliable insider source - GB member Sanderson to wed

by sir82 in

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not only that, but apparently it is to a transgender female.. new light wt article regarding "born that way" transgenders as a "conscience matter" to be released in the august 15 wt.. more details here..

WingCommander

Sanderson would have to desire intimacy with another human being before he could be wed. This would mean he'd have to break it off with his hand, or possibly TOMO III's hand. So sad.

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Out on Facebook

by disillusioned 2 in

i am just venting because my sister has put on facebook that i am no longer "in the truth"!

i have kept a very low profile for years and have silently faded.

many witnesses i have bumped into are very friendly towards me, some from other congregations may not even be aware that i dont go anymore.

WingCommander

Right on Facebook, I'd ask her for "Two Witnesses" to your supposed lack of faith, then also speak up against her slanderous remarks, which could be cause for "stumbling you out of the Truth."

OMG, I would sooooooo turn this behaviour back on her. I throw out about how she is showing a lack of "Christian love", and not showing a true "fruitage of the spirit."

In short, I would make her look like the total ASS that she so obviously IS.

What a C*nt!

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1958 Convention Program. 8 days from 9am till 9pm. Anyone attend?

by StopTheTears in

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how in the world did they justify this torture?

imagine the children forced to sit in the summer heat at yankee stadium for 12 hours a day.

for 8 days.

WingCommander

I remember the early 19-8ooooooo's. Back then, District Conventions were like 4-5 days. It was HELL. Especially if you were assigned to the concrete monster known as Veterans Stadium, in Philadelphia, PA. I was hyperactive as a child. I could have jumped out of my skin I was so bored, and the echo in that acoustically retarded stadium made listening nearly impossible.

As a grown adult, I often wonder about the sanity of my parents, that would drag a young child and their elderly (65+) yr old mother along to the stifling heat of the Vet in June or July. Pass me a grape Shasta, before I pass out!

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Is the 'growth™' still being hyped?

by punkofnice in

when i was a member of watchtower corporation, i regularly heard how it must be the true religion because of the growth™.

(phenomenal, apparently).. i wonder if they still hang onto this?

has it been boasted about at meetings recently?

WingCommander

"Growth" is always hyped, because it's positive. "Decline" would be negative, and might send up a red flag for anyone with half a brain.

Scientology does the exact same thing; perpetually peddling "growth" as proof of their Org.

Funny, Scientology was always referring to themselves in "Organizational" terms, and now it seems the WatchTower has done the same. It's the Org this, and the Org that. Really sickening and creepy, especially if you studied anything about Scientology. (in relation to it being a cult)

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Another generation....

by joey jojo in

it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

WingCommander

@ Fedup:

"After congratulating me, all he could say is, "don't worry, we're really close now."

^^ That right there, really shows how controlled and misled they are. Sure, we're closer now than ever before to the end. The end of this week, this month, this year, our lives, the Sun becoming a Red Giant and consuming the entire planet. Closer than ever before!

These people are delusional and totally brainwashed. It's like, instead of time passing them by and proving to them that they were conned, it instead somehow proves it all RIGHT! It's incredibly mentally frustrating and sad.

I really feel for you. But congratulations on your "soon" being a Grandparent! Any day now, like August! :)

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out for a long time

by Sledracer in

my husband and i have been out for a long time, maybe fifteen years, i must say we are in a bit of a nowhere land spiritually, we find it impossible to attend any other church.

we really resent so much of how they messed up our and our children's lives.

we can't get back all those 25 years we were in.

WingCommander

I have a funny feeling........deep inside my bowels.......it's tingling. I think it might just be, Agape Love!

Run! Runnnnn back to the Kingdumb Hell! I'm sure they will be more than eager to welcome you back just like the father in the Prodigal Son story! Go back and bask in their warm, gooey, Christian loooooooove!

Good luck with all that. lol

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Another generation....

by joey jojo in

it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

WingCommander

Honestly, this (1) topic cannot be brought up enough. I'm 36. Growing up as a young child in the 1980's, it was constantly drilled into our heads from not only the literature, but also from the podium in particular that us "kids" surely wouldn't ever grow up to be adults in "this System of Things.". The 1984 literature in particular really drove it home and worked everyone up into a preaching frenzy. For God's sake, the entire 1914 Generation doctrine was used as "absolute Proof", that the Society had the "Truth", and if people didn't accept this twisted biblical mathematical wizardry, well then they were going to be in the Lake of Fire along with Satan himself! Honestly, growing up in the 1980's was scary because of this cult. Every single political action or news piece was more proof that we were deep in the "time of the end", and that the Great Tribulation would break out at any time. There was constant speculation as to whom the King of North was, and when the United Nations would turn on religion and destroy it. As I recall, the fall of the Berlin Wall combined with the demise of the former USSR, really shock things up for the WTBTS. I mean it's like the hot air had left the balloon. Totally crushed their paranoid delusions of fantasy. After about 1992, it was all over. 1992 marked the year that the Oracle, Fred Franz, finally departed from "The Launch Pad." (Bethelites will get this reference) The 1995 Generation change was the first step in wiping all of that Fred Franz apocalyptic crap under the rug, and finally with this current Governing Body, right out the door!!! Even crazy Fred's "types and anti-types" crap is totally GONE!!! This was just stated within the past year in WT articles. No more types and anti-types, and applying future fulfillment on previous prophecy.

So yeah, saying this is a different religion from the one I was born into in 1979, would be a complete understatement. My parents have already passed away, going on 10 years now. Their jaws would be on the floor to see what for a sham this has all become now. They just simply wouldn't believe it. Hell, I'm still alive, and I can barely believe the convoluted BS that continues to be spew forth.