OMG......that masturbation video guy.....signing for the Deaf.......hahahahahahaha!
The best take I've seen on that one is where someone put 50 Cent music over it. LOL!!
a few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.
to not do it anymore.
it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.
OMG......that masturbation video guy.....signing for the Deaf.......hahahahahahaha!
The best take I've seen on that one is where someone put 50 Cent music over it. LOL!!
a few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.
to not do it anymore.
it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.
@Vidiot:
The real estate part has been up and running for about 10 years now. WT HQ owns EVERYTHING. All property and bank accounts.
What they are most concerned about now is their new Investment Portfolio's in Ireland and the managing and profiting off of them thereof. They (and the Mormons) could have every member walk away tomorrow, and their status and Cult HQ's would be able to live like Kings for the next 100 years off the interest alone from these investment portfolios.
The only thing that will truly bring them down? Death by 1,000 lawsuits and media exposure, leading to actual criminal charges and incarceration of the leadership. Think Jeff Warrens of the FLDA. His ass is warming a prison cell.....probably forever. I try to picture the Governing Body behind bars and it just brings a smile to my face. Imagine these overstuffed, greedy charlatans having to slim down and follow orders all day from Correctional Officers. Sweet, sweet justice! I long for the day.
C'mon PA Grand Jury Investigation: Hurry up!
a few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.
to not do it anymore.
it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.
A few on here (and of course many on the Ex-JW Reddit forum) have mentioned that WT HQ just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of JW actors, taking photos with them, etc. To not do it anymore. It was narrated by Geoffrey Jackson.
Why the backpedaling after years of videos showing them basically being worshiped and celebrated when they'd arrive at International Conventions, Assemblies, etc with greeting lines, photo lines, green handshakes, etc?
The answer is simple, and I've
been saying this for a long time now. This Org is completely on the
defensive. Every single thing they put out for consumption by the rank-n-file Sheeple is completely reactionary. They are never
PRO-active, they are RE-active. Ex-members were pointing out this
blatant idolatry to their still PIMI friends and family, and it finally got back to the WT HQ how it looked,
and hence the warning against it. (all in the name of humility of
course. lol)
Basically, their IT trolls who comb thru these forums compiling the grievances of the ex-members put forth a list to them of the top stuff ex-members are bringing to the forefront of the public and PIMQ members.
So, in response, we have the following changes, almost directly in response to former (and still in) members "murmuring":
1. TOMO 3 tossed out on his ass after "BottleGate" and many, MANY other public displays of arrogance and drunkenness. (including at WT HQ)
2. Dress and Grooming. Beards and slacks for women now allowed, ties and suits not even necessary, no more dressing like 1950's vacuum salesman.
3. Loosening of how to treat / greet DF'd ones. Yes, gotta at least treat these ones as human in hopes of gaining them back because their money is just as good as any "adherent" in good standing.
4. Jesus video series. Gotta at least give the IMPRESSION of giving Jesus the lip service treatment, even though we all know The Governing Body is running this show. By putting out this series, they can still at least claim to be "Christian" while selling off Kingdom Halls and raking in profits on real estate and Investment Portfolios and Hedge Funds.
5. Notice how Robert Hendricks got "the boot" from the Public Information Department (PID) (for having an affair, lol) and we haven't heard a peep about his replacement? Notice how all that BS got shut down and we don't see jack shit from them? Recently, a letter from WT HQ went around to even the Convention Committee's basically shutting down all public statements, etc. The message from WT HQ: "STFU! You're making us look bad!" It's true.....every time Hendricks or one of his clowns opened their mouths, it gave the ex-JW movement more ammunition. Better to say nothing and appear impotent, than open your mouth and appear the fool. SPOILER ALERT: They're both.
What
will the future hold? My guess: Birthdays first, and then possibly
light holidays like Thanksgiving and (gasp!) then even Christmas, as
long as no one is going overboard. Eventually..........everyone gets a
Heavenly Hope......144,000 will be "figurative" just like Christendom. Don't worry, The
Governing Body will always be in charge as "The Faithful and Discreet
Slave."
are convention dramas still a thing or have these been replaced by videos of dramas recorded in the usa?.
Someone on here mentioned that they've just recently (like in the past few months) put out a video slamming this praising of JW actors, taking photos with them, etc. To not do it anymore. It was narrated by Geoffrey Jackson.
Why the backpedaling after years of videos showing them basically being worshiped when they'd arrive at International Conventions, Assemblies, etc with greeting lines, photo lines, green handshakes, etc?
The answer is simple, and I've been saying for a long time now. This Org is completely on the defensive. Every single thing they put out for consumption by the dumbass rank-n-file Sheeple is completely reactionary. They are never PRO-active, they are RE-active. Ex-members were pointing out this blatant idolatry, and it finally got back to the WT HQ how it looked, and hence the warning against it. (all in the name of humility of course. lol)
Basically, their IT trolls who comb thru these forums compiling the grievances of the ex-members put forth a list to them of the top stuff ex-members are bringing to the forefront of the public and PIMQ members.
So, in response, we have the following changes, almost directly in response to former members "murmuring":
1. TOMO 3 tossed out on his ass after Bottlegate and many, MANY other public displays of arrogance and drunkness. (including at WT HQ)
2. Dress and Grooming. Beards and slacks for women now allowed, no ties, no more dressing like 1950's vacuum salesman.
3. Loosening of how to treat / greet DF'd ones.
4. Jesus videos. Gotta at least give the IMPRESSION of giving Jesus the lip service treatment, even though we all know The Governing Body is running this show. By putting out this series, they can still at least claim to be "Christian" while selling off Kingdom Halls and raking in profits on real estate and Investment Portfolios and Hedge Funds.
What will the future hold? My guess: Birthdays first, and then possibly light holidays like Thanksgiving and (gasp!) then even Christmas, as long as no one is going overboard. Eventually..........everyone gets a Heavenly Hope......144,000 will be "figurative". Don't worry, The Governing Body will always be in charge as "The Faithful and Discreet Slave."
It's a whole new cult everyone........buckle up! GB 3.0 is at the helm of this ship, so you pee-on's just keep "shoveling the coal" and listening, OBEYING, and of course - DONATING!
we have a 25 year guy in our hall who is also a pioneer (which means he lives off his parents money), who likes to spend a lot of time with a 16 year old girl in the hall.
it is usually in a group setting but he seems to gravitate toward her.
he even has her auxilary pioneering , which is something i don't think any student trying to make the grades needs.
16 & 14? 18 & 16? 19 & 17?
No problem, 2 years age difference falls under "Juliet Laws" here in many of the United States.
25 & 16? This is called "grooming", and if this girl has a father in the picture, he needs to step the f*ck up and put this guy in his place, which is FAR AWAY from his underage daughter, under threat of immediate "Ass whooping" followed up by a stalking charge and restraining order.
Elduhzzzz wouldn't dare to say a thing to me about my actions either, or I'd plant my boot up their dumb asses next as a warning to "shepherd the flock" or else.
are convention dramas still a thing or have these been replaced by videos of dramas recorded in the usa?.
That photo above is incredible, and to think it was 25 years ago already!
Signing "Gift Bibles for public officials." - the jaw-dropping audacity! Pure idolatry.
These effete grifters have absolutely lost the plot and shown themselves to be the charlatans and false prophets that they are. And to think, today it's 100x worse!
here is my story of becoming a missionary after having kin suen (pronounced “shin”) as my circuit overseer.
my father wanted me to go to college, but since he wasn’t a witness, i knew he just didn’t understand how close we were to the end.
i had actually become a circuit overseer!
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I was born in 1980, and wished I could have lived it as a teenager. You could have, but instead were stuck in a cult!
What's mind-blowing to me, is that you are one of the rare few who 100% followed "The Faithful & Discreet Slave", and instead of "The Best life Ever!" you got a complete shit sandwich. Stuck in some 3rd World shithole for years on end. Slaving away for free for a multi-billion Corporation who can't even be bothered to buy you a decent car, or provide a decent living wage for your hard work. Meanwhile, THEY live like Kings and are housed, fed, and served on the rank-n-files dime. If you were a CO in the USA, you'd have been given a stipend and a car! (on top of Green Handshakes)
Truly, you gave your all, especially your "youth", and for what? False hope and empty promises. Truly, fuck this cult!
i thought i would give my personal experience on who i am, how i came into the world of watchtower, why i left, etc.
this would explain a lot about the answers i give and why they don't directly reflect my personal convictions (like a normal person--and i do mean that literally, kinda).
i cannot put everything here, but i can start bit by bit.. when i was 17 years old, my mother was on her third marriage and kinda starting her fourth (as she was dating this surfer dude-like guy who wasn't even 5 years older than me).
Not gonna lie; this is one the trippiest stories I've read on here, and I've been on here 22 years. lol.
Welcome! I think you'll fit right in here.
this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.
(i don’t go on jw dot org).
it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.
Yeah, I caught that Reddit thread yesterday. And I tell ya, this is some SHOCK AND AWE.
Never thought I'd live to see the day that THIS "adjustment" would shine thru.
Why?
I was told all throughout the 80's growing up that I'd never even make it to my high school graduation, much less have to worry about a career or retiring. The "End" was near! I graduated high school in 1997, and my son graduated high school 25 years after me. The only difference? He's never set foot in a Kingdumb Hell!
Having any sort of retirement, or hell, even extra life insurance, was seen as "not having faith in how close to the time of the End" we were in, so you were "Spiritually Weak." Hell, it was even considered "gambling"! So of course, my gullible parents never saved a dime, lived paycheque to paycheque, and got into mountains of debt, and a retirement account? Fuggetaboutit! My poor late mother only started that after my father died, and she had her "Awake!ening" from the cult. She managed to save a good bit before succumbing to an illness. FYI, WatchTower didn't get one red cent from her! LOL!!!
But yeah, all this bullshit......all the guilt trips.......for WatchTower HQ to turn around as the hypocrites they are and be found out to have been investing, hedging their bets, etc for decades.....and now to have these 3 huge Irish Investment portfolios? FUCK YOU ASSHOLES!!!!
The slaps to the faces of the faithful and ones old enough to remember how things USED to be and promised, is an incredible sight to behold from this point in time. Speaking of which, it is soon to be the Year of our Lord 2025. Where the hell is The Great Tribulation? We are now a full 50 years past 1975. Just jaw-dropping false prophecy, hypocrisy, greed, and televangelism now.
Like, could any of you ever believe we'd be "witnessing" this type of shit in the year 2025? Where's my pet tiger and panda in front of my A-frame Chalet next to the lake? ((( crickets chirping ))) The only people with a nice view by a lake are the "Popes of New York" up in Warwick. Greedy-ass rich slimy mutherfuggers like Stephen Lett and the new guy Joele (real estate mongols) are living like Kings, their retirement is all set, off the backs of the members.....errrrr......."adherents"......errrr........SLAVE LABOUR that donated their whole lives. I hope they all choke on a big ol' bag of dicks!
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Lloyd Evans has been demoted to being merely a pimple on the ass cheek of Europe.