Posts by Roddy

unless they figured a loophole that will get new and younger members into this self-appointed priestlike elite and keep their assumed reign of power with the president having total control.

Roddy

Hi all. I'm afraid I haven't been following the WTS as closely as many of you are. I'm just courious of who really runs the WTS these days.

I'm almost certain it can't be the GB. Unless they figured a loophole that will get new and younger members into this self-appointed priestlike elite and keep their assumed reign of power with the President having total control. Those where the days! LOL!

Last rumors I heard it was a checks and balances game between the two most powerful departments in the WTS HQ: The Teaching Dept and the Legal Dept. With most of the time the Legal Dept winning slightly most of the plays although they do influence each other from time to time. I guess they have to.

Still the case today?

I still find it funny that for an organization that prides itself on neutrality in world politics, in its own little world it is nothing but politics of their own special kind!!

Also, any chance that the GB will either disappear or become irrelevant?

Thanks.

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New Book by Ex-Jehovah's Witness

by Kenneson in

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don't know if this has been posted or not, but there's a new book out by an ex-jehovah's witness.

it's entitled "the kingdom hall no more.".

see http://www.earnedmedia.org/khnm0110.htm.

Roddy

Rekless, these days you can publish anything you want on the Interent yourself via your own webpages. But if you want to make some sort of living, recognition, or both out of it you need to get it published in book form. If you fool around within the link above you'll see the publishers of this individual's book. I think you can check them out and see if you want to use them or get some other ideas of other publishers. I've heard there are many publishers who work in similar ways. Or if you have the investment, get the book published youself.

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New Book by Ex-Jehovah's Witness

by Kenneson in

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don't know if this has been posted or not, but there's a new book out by an ex-jehovah's witness.

it's entitled "the kingdom hall no more.".

see http://www.earnedmedia.org/khnm0110.htm.

Roddy

Interesting that you mentioned this.

Yesterday I went back to the kingdom hall (different congregation) after some years because I was told that a long time childhood friend would be giving the talk and this sister - a long time grandmother figure for me - just knew what buttons to push so I gave in and said I'd visit. LOL

Turns out it was someone with a similar name so it wasn't him. We were all disappointed. But that's not the end of it. The speaker was so boring and parrotish using all typical clichés and shallow reasonings that I was starting to feel embarrassed FOR HIM! LOL All he needed to do to make himself look worse was to pick his nose on stage -- which he finally did at the end of his talk.

Not a total loss -- the entertainment value was worth it.

But what I noticed was the attendance -- not even half the hall was filled.

That was interesting. So maybe there is something with this book?

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My JW daughter made this comment

by cawshun in

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my daughter was here last night, she asked if i knew about john travoltas son dying.

i said yes, her reply was... scientology wouldn't let him take medicine and thats what killed him.

i said, well actually, the news said he was taking meds but they no longer were working for him.

Roddy

That was excellent reasoning. As the other poster said: Now the thinking process begins.

Interesting about Scientology. I didn't read the media saying that the Travolta's refused medical treatment for the son's disease. But I tend to distrust most USA media these days. Just look at the inconsistancy. They get all into Sarah Palin's personal life but regarding the Travolta's they don't mention what effects their religion played in their son's treatments.

Go figure!

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Sueing the WTBTS

by Watkins in

does anyone know --- has anyone ever successfully sued the wtbts after being disfellowshipped and losing the natural affections of their family, as per wtbts directions to 'shun'?

i guess it would be 'alienation of affection' or something else... i don't know.

i'm lucky to have had no family members in the cult - but i've read horrendous stories of the effects disfellowshipping has had on others - lives effectively ruined by losing mates, children, parents, friends, jobs, homes... suicides, murder/suicide - all devestating results of the cult's edicts.

Roddy

I think the WTS is on weak ground if another Witness in, say in a medical or legal matter, broke professional confidentiality in order to snitch on you to your congregation via religious contacts.

While silently "encouraging" the extra congregational snitching, I'm sure the WTS will let the snitcher hang out to dry alone if he or she is found out. So you have to show that your local elders had to be contacted with the damning information by help from the WTS and there is simply no way for the snitch to pass that information to your local congregation in any other way.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the WTS will only limit themselves to giving the snitch the phone number of the PO so he or her can call the information in giving the appearance that the WTS had no active participation.

Yep, that's my guess. LOL Well, it was a good mental excersize.

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Hey seen this????

by mouthy in

http://shekhinahlightoutreach.org.

Roddy

Just another Trinitarian Christian site. What's so special?

It is neat and easy on the eyes however.

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Notice the major u-turn in the March study WT???

by Amha·aret in

i still get copies of all the kms and mags - just for a giggle really.

oh and to look out for noo light of course!.

i was browsing thru the march 15 2009 yesterday and came across something that was noo to me.

Roddy

I agree. I think they are in a slow scheme to phase out the 1914 year. I think they feel pretty confident that 2014 will come and pass. And "the generation" - any way they want to spin it - will most likely be all gone and buried.

Alas! I was so fooled. I should have bailed out when 1975 came and went. I have to laugh at myself.

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Watchtower deception regarding the TRINITY

by jwfacts in

i have finally finished an article outlining the deceptive way in which the watchtower presents its anti-trinitarian information.

any constructive criticism such as regarding errors that may have crept in is welcome.

since i cannot embed a page i hope entering the html code works, otherwise it can be read at http://jwfacts.com/index_files/trinity.htm.

Roddy

John 5:23 is considered one of the strongest statements that Jesus is God by commentaries such as Burton, Coughman's and John Calvin, because of the implication that honor should be to the same degree. This corresponds to the preceeding verse in John 5:18 that "On this account, indeed, the Jews began seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath but he was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God."
This only proves that is what the Jews thought he was doing, not that he was actually doing it.
If There is a Trinity then answer these questions:
God told Moses that "No man may see me and yet live" yet how many thousands saw Jesus and DID live??? If Jesus was God of the OT then that would imply he transformed himself into a lesser being in order to walk the earth for how else could you contain all that power, energy, knowledge and greatness that is God? No being who has power, knowledge, education and stature is willingly going to make him or her self into a person with less power, knowledge, education and stature
So Jesus was praying to himself in the garden?
The bible also says that no structure of man could contain God...yet Jesus was contained within many many man made structures in his time. How could something as small and puny as a house be expected to contain the greatness of God? It cannot
Jesus died and went to hell for 3 days...no human has the ability to kill God or any god unless we ourselves have created them. If Jesus is God then you are saying that humans killed their creator. If that's the case then how can he be a true god?
I don't for one minute believe that there is a Trinity. Certainly the Jews (and Muslims for that matter) don't believe in it, and didn't at the time either. I accept the arguement that if the early Christians were refering to a trinity type arrangement that it would have been a lot harder to attract Jews to it because it's not an obvious extention of their religion which is what Chirstianity is supposed to be...the final result of the Jewish religion, the end of the path.

Agreed.

I think it is another topic regarding the WTS standards, or lack of, when it comes to truth and accuracy in journalism. How the WTS tries to debunk the Trinity is amaturish at best. Surprizing for an organization that has been publishing for over a hundred years.

The Trinity falls flat on its face when Biblical facts are brought to bear.