Posts by Roddy

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stealing the collection plate

by diamondiiz in

as i was going over some more recent wt scandals i thought deeper about this parking pass donation scheme.

what's the scoop on this today?

i know that even 2 years ago when i still went to the conventions they advertised parking tickets on a donation basis in calgary so it got me thinking that the whole procedure sounds very similar to the one in tacoma.

Roddy

I think they have overused and altered the word "donation" since it entered their vocabulary in the early 90s.

My take on it is if the parking and convention are "free" why insist on a daily parking "donation"? Let me ask a follow-up question: Can I still park the car if refuse to donate or don't have the money?

I think it is a revenue generating gimmick to either pay for the expense of the venue, generate a bit of needed profit, or most likely both. It's a little bit of word play: the stadium seats are free but the stadium parking isn't.

I think by insisting that people bring their own meals they are encouraging people to take their cars. Who wants to carry their bookbags and their lunches, and those of their children, on the bus?

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The JWs have their own Trinity, and more

by Doug Mason in

the jws explanation of the human being jesus christ is an unreasonable, irrational trinity.. first he is a god with a divine nature.

but he is also an angel, so presumably has the nature of that level of created being.. then he is deprived of these natures and he only possesses the attributes of the human nature, albeit the nature possessed by the very first one, (homo erectus or neanderthal?

) adam and his wife eve.

Roddy

Sorry Doug but your criticism and the way you explained it doesn't make sense.

I can understand if you have an axe to grind against the JWs but you are grasping at straws here.

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Convention-Assembly CONTRIBUTIONS, Elder Experience Required

by V in

do you have experience as an elder and the contribution arrangement for assemblies or conventions?

an upcoming watchtower comments video will be exposing the resolution arrangement that makes this a cash-cow for the society.. i am particularly interested in recent experience, including countries other than the us.. let's get our facts straight and explain the ever-present "deficit" once and for all.. v. [email protected] .

Roddy

here's a link to Canadian Assembly hall's tax returns, compare some to each other. I know Norval, Ontario( 90% sure :) ) and Onoway, Alberta ( 100% sure ) don't have any kingdom halls in them and are strictly used for assemblies. I don't know why more didn't appear as I know there is one in Calgary that has 5 kingdom halls in it which is also used as an assembly hall.

I tried it twice. The link didn't work. Is there another way you can show the content? I'm curious.

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Convention-Assembly CONTRIBUTIONS, Elder Experience Required

by V in

do you have experience as an elder and the contribution arrangement for assemblies or conventions?

an upcoming watchtower comments video will be exposing the resolution arrangement that makes this a cash-cow for the society.. i am particularly interested in recent experience, including countries other than the us.. let's get our facts straight and explain the ever-present "deficit" once and for all.. v. [email protected] .

Roddy

I believe the Branch manual contains written instructions regarding how that works.

http://elsewhereishere.com/jw/branch_organization_manual_bo-e.pdf

Elsewhere, that is an excellent scan!! Did you have that manual professionally scanned? Just curious.

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Public Talk Outlines

by Lady Lee in

i have been collecting the public talk outlines.

i have almost all of them but there are a few missing.

i have tiles for some but just numbers for others.

Roddy

Propbably the same outlines with the appropriate minutes of extra material crossed out. LOL!

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1975 coverup! Compare the '68 and '81 Truth book scans

by JimmyPage in

the wt society pointed to 1975 as the date for the end of the world.

when the date came and went they changed their publications to remove themselves from the fiasco.

need proof?

Roddy

The WTS is very sneaky with their sneaky revisions. I've seen others show scans of changes even though they didn't openly come out with a "revision" edition.

Some here have software that tracks the changes the WTS do at their websites! LOL

Say, has anyone come up with a list of before and after coverups? I've seen them posted from time to time so some have this research.

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All you elders kids

by sinis in

i remember my old man being the po used to give talks all the time out of cong and city.

at first i was excited, i was 17 (horny) and wanted to meet some girls, but my excitement soon wained and i would tell my family that i was just going to the local hall whenever they went out of town or another cong in town.

the reason?

Roddy

It depends on the demographics of your area. If you live in a mostly retirement area, that's mostly what you're going to get.

When my Bible study conductor was promoted to elder I got to go with him on some of his talks. I got to meet quite a few babes in and around my area. I guess some places had better babe populations than others.

But sometimes it may work for your benefit. I met a nice sister in one of those mostly old populated congregations. While you get sisters that can get quite rebellious and sassy living in a predominantly mature area, on the other hand you get a few sisters that are pretty well grounded, intelligent, and refreshingly old-fashioned and sweet.

Just my two cents.

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In case you haven't been to a meeting in years........things haven't changed!

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i went to sunday's talk and watchtower meeting.

sorry to report..............nothing has changed!.

i walked in and as usual elders are talking with fellow elders.

Roddy

R&R, you're right. I went to a meeting this past January and it was just the same - just as you explained. The Watchtower study had no surprises.

The speaker was just awful! I was truly embarrassed for the JWs there who brought any guests to hear this. He used generalities, tons of JW-speak cliché, used and reused about 80 words in his vast vocabulary. You'd hate to figure how this life-long member of the Theocratic Ministry School must have sounded like before he enrolled!

I'm sorry but if people are going to give you 45 minutes of their time, the least you should do is speak your best with art, pride, and enthusiasm in what you have to say!

Perhaps this is the reason why meeting attendance is getting worse -- the JWs are simply run out of gas and they have empty speeches to offer once they get there.

Simply awful! I was really shocked. I wonder how it must be at the larger assemblies.

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Need scan: Awake! 1971 October 8

by zakheyold in

need scan of awake!

1971 october 8 which contains a diagram of human history representing millenial reign..

Roddy

The "End" came 34 years ago. We can all start breathing again.

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How To Choose the Best Translation of the Bible; Guess Which One Wins?

by passwordprotected in

http://watchtower.org/e/20080501a/article_01.htm.

of course, they fail to mention adding word like [other], [union] and the name jehovah to the inspired text.. tut, tut, more intellectual dishonest from the "faithful and discreet" slave who never runs ahead of jehovah..

Roddy

Of course, they fail to mention adding word like [other], [union] and the name Jehovah to the inspired text.

Tut, tut, more intellectual dishonest from the "faithful and discreet" slave who never runs ahead of Jehovah.

Sometimes they do make sense.

After all, if there is no quesiton that the name of God appears in the Old Testament then one has to wonder why quotes of that same Old Testament verses in the New Testament substitutes the same name of God to a title.