Why end shunning? Wouldn't that just serve to keep them in a brainwashed cult?
Does it at times shunning could actually be a wake up call for JWs to leave the cult rather than keep them in?
I know shunning sucks and it has a tremendous effect on families, but at the same time, can shunning be a beneficial thing to wake up those stuck in a cult and realize the whole WTS thing is a sham???
Yizuman
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Are we starting to treat DF people differently?
by Quarterback insome may remember the time when the private study edition of the wt wasn't to be made available to outsiders, and the df'd.. now, with the recent boe letter, sept 1, 2014, it specifically states that jw.org is making the km available even for df'd individuals.. do you sense a new trend developing?.
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It's been a long time....
by Yizuman inlong time, no posts.... .
those that remember me, well, i'm doing ok, so far.. those that remember my wife, she passed away as of june 26th this year after a long battle with various health issues for the past 6 years.. thought i'd drop a note to say hello to everyone that knew me.. .
i hope everyone is well.. .
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Thanks everyone. Glad to see some familiar names.
Hope all is well!
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It's been a long time....
by Yizuman inlong time, no posts.... .
those that remember me, well, i'm doing ok, so far.. those that remember my wife, she passed away as of june 26th this year after a long battle with various health issues for the past 6 years.. thought i'd drop a note to say hello to everyone that knew me.. .
i hope everyone is well.. .
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Long time, no posts...
Those that remember me, well, I'm doing ok, so far.Those that remember my wife, she passed away as of June 26th this year after a long battle with various health issues for the past 6 years.
Thought I'd drop a note to say hello to everyone that knew me.
I hope everyone is well.Yiz
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Hear ye!hear ye!!!!Take notice
by mouthy intomorrow the 22nd i will be 85 years old .
good wishes only please,remember if you say something nasty i will cry.
and my mum told me it is a sin to cry on your birthday .
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I wish I could go Mouthy, but wife comes first.
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Hear ye!hear ye!!!!Take notice
by mouthy intomorrow the 22nd i will be 85 years old .
good wishes only please,remember if you say something nasty i will cry.
and my mum told me it is a sin to cry on your birthday .
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Hey sorry I'm a tad late, but happy birthday, Mouthy!!
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FOIA request for Obama's SS records
by moshe inwill these birthers never give up?.
wnd exclusive a question of eligibility.
obama critic coming closer to social security records?.
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and Yizuman, you can continue to use a logically fallacious comparison between the Watchtower & WND all you want, but it doesnt change the fact that you're wrong.
I can fully understand that, but the problem I've been seen from my own personal observation and from reading books like Steve Hassan "Combatting Cult Mind Control".
There's a "dependancy pattern" that each member of the WTS have developed while on the "inside" which takes years for the development to take a hold of the individual. (just like how brainwashing took years for it to take hold of the individual, unless a detour is brought into the consciousness of the individual that eventually leds them to the eventual truth which results in a decision to "stay" or "leave" the enviroment that the individual spent many years on.)
Not everyone was aware (or consciousness) of their "dependancy pattern" that continues on with them after leaving the WTS, the subconscience mind reached out for a replacement to latch into in order to replace what it originally was latched into.
Have you stopped and observed yourself reading magazines and other types of reading materials? Have you observed what sort of pattern that the writer employs? There are some very strong simularities that sources like CNN, Newsweek, Time Magazines. etc. uses that the WTS had employed. They both employed the same kind of formula that entrances the reader, drawing their minds like moths to a flame. Don't just take my word for it, go see it for yourself. (The only exception for magazines like Time for example, they didn't employ the Q&A format at the bottom of their pages. Heh heh heh, )
But, nonetheless, I just want you to be careful that you're not jumping out from the frying pan and into the fire. It's been my observation on this forum that many who had developed a "dependancy habit" that when they left the WTS, their subconscience mind (in which I am pretty sure many are not aware of what they are doing) started reaching out for a replacement (or substitution) for their old "depedancy habit" for a new one.
So before you get defensive and deny that you may have a "dependancy habit", please be sure of yourself that you aren't.
Now another thing, speaking from personal experience, I do not reply on magazines and newspapers as the source of "truth", if I read some information in regards to something, I will want to be sure that what I am reading is 100% accurate. The best way to be sure that it is accurate, is to go directly to the source.
That's what Moshe and TD is doing and anyone else involved in investigating the accurancy of Obama's BC. Obtaining the original BC and information about the history of the SS number is the best way to go to "directly to the source" and usually the "source" has a much more reliable set of information that reveals the truth.
If the BC shows that the typewriter fonts do not match through and through and it's coming from different typewriters, then guys like Moshe and TD has the right to question it.
Magazines/newspapers won't do that for you, only YOU can do that for yourself if you want as you have said, the truth.
Yiz
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FOIA request for Obama's SS records
by moshe inwill these birthers never give up?.
wnd exclusive a question of eligibility.
obama critic coming closer to social security records?.
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Here is an article from February 2010 showing the Social Security issue that the birthers "have just recently" started to use :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2442166/posts
It was largely ignored until obama released the long-form birth certificate. Looks like changing the goal posts to me....
Replace the word, "an article" with "The Watchtower".
Old habits die hard, wouldn't you say?
Yiz
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FOIA request for Obama's SS records
by moshe inwill these birthers never give up?.
wnd exclusive a question of eligibility.
obama critic coming closer to social security records?.
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Weak Analogy, Yizuman.
Going to have to do better.
When you left the lie, how do you know absolutely for certain you didn't leave one lie for another lie (liberalism)?
Only you can answer that question...
Yiz
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FOIA request for Obama's SS records
by moshe inwill these birthers never give up?.
wnd exclusive a question of eligibility.
obama critic coming closer to social security records?.
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Yizuman
Dune:
What I want to know is how anyone can take articles from WND seriously?
Apostates are nut jobs= don't look at anything they try to show you- it's all a lie.
Birthers are nut jobs= don't look at anything they try to show you- it's all a lie.
Yiz