She's doing fine. Her health is stable and steady. Thank you for asking!
Yiz
quote:tsa to traveler: next time, leave your insulin pump at home?.
woman complains about tsa screening at local airport.. wednesday, november 17, 2010. .
as we hear from more outraged air travelers about the humiliating procedures they're being forced to endure to pass through airport security checkpoints, comes this doozy out of fort lauderdale / hollywood international airport.. .
She's doing fine. Her health is stable and steady. Thank you for asking!
Yiz
quote:tsa to traveler: next time, leave your insulin pump at home?.
woman complains about tsa screening at local airport.. wednesday, november 17, 2010. .
as we hear from more outraged air travelers about the humiliating procedures they're being forced to endure to pass through airport security checkpoints, comes this doozy out of fort lauderdale / hollywood international airport.. .
Quote:
TSA to Traveler: Next Time, Leave Your Insulin Pump at Home? Woman complains about TSA screening at local airport. Wednesday, November 17, 2010 As we hear from more outraged air travelers about the humiliating procedures they're being forced to endure to pass through airport security checkpoints, comes this doozy out of Fort Lauderdale / Hollywood International Airport. A woman called the South Florida's First News Show on radio station 610am WIOD, this morning (Wed. 11-17-10), horrified about what her daughter had been put through. The call was with the woman, named Jackie, speaking with 610am WIOD host Jimmy Cefalo & Manny Munoz. "She is an insuline depended diabetic who has an isuline pump. She travels regularly in the airport. Today, about 25 minutes ago, she was..the alarm went off she told them she had an insuline pump, they physically groped her, went down her pants, her thighs, and advised her not to wear the insuline pump any more going through security. They advised her to take it off in the future if she didn't want to be groped. She was so upset she called me after she got through security hysterically crying" Fort Lauderdale Airport officials say no formal complaint was filed so they are unaware if the alleged incident ever took place. |
Source: WIOD NewsRadio 610 - News | Traffic | Weather - 24
Yiz
Apparently, there's a law that images in the scanners is supposed to be deleted are ending up being saved.
Yiz
i don't know what it is ...... but it's becoming disconcerting.
he's going to just have to sit outside the door and wait.
i know it will be dissappointing to him , as he purrs like crazy while gathering in the experience.
OMG my cat does the same thing too. LOL
Yiz
[these events took place roughly between 5:30 and 6:30 am, november 13th in terminal 2 of the san diego international airport.
i'm writing this approximately 2 1/2 hours after the events transpired, and they are correct to the best of my recollection.
having left the area, he stated, i would be subject to a civil suit and a $10,000 fine.
Look back at your post ... in no way does it not appear that it was not you ... so you are incorrect my friend. but we all make mistakes :-) thanks for posting it though
I provided a source at the bottom of the page, do I have to place a disclaimer on every thread that I create now?
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[these events took place roughly between 5:30 and 6:30 am, november 13th in terminal 2 of the san diego international airport.
i'm writing this approximately 2 1/2 hours after the events transpired, and they are correct to the best of my recollection.
having left the area, he stated, i would be subject to a civil suit and a $10,000 fine.
Yizuman,
You did not provide the source of your material, making it seem as though it was your story.
Not cool.
Go back to page one, scroll down to the bottom of the page, see where it reads...
Source: http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html
It's not my fault you can't read or being a selective reader...
Yiz
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bombshell-fema-camps-confirmed.html.
former gov.
jesse ventura and his crew at conspiracy theory have blown the fema camp issue wide open in a truly groundbreaking episode from the programs second season on trutv.
Here's what I can't figure out: Why build all these camps that will just sit idle for 15, 20, 30, 100 years?
I dunno, seems like a bit of a stretch.
To take control of a country doesn't happen overnight. Alot of planning is needed and it can take years.
Yiz
[these events took place roughly between 5:30 and 6:30 am, november 13th in terminal 2 of the san diego international airport.
i'm writing this approximately 2 1/2 hours after the events transpired, and they are correct to the best of my recollection.
having left the area, he stated, i would be subject to a civil suit and a $10,000 fine.
I agree with the TSA's procedures but where I have a problem is when the they are going to force him to the pat down. Come on, his items went through xray and he a metal detector. The passenger was calm and kudos to him for recording it. I wonder if the TSA will sue him for recording, there are signs all over at the security screening that no one is to photograph/record.
They prolly will, they'll prolly try to charge him for violating "wiretapping" laws like a cop tried to do with a motorcyclist a while back, but the charges got tossed out in court.
On a side note: I'm surprised that the TSA didn't move in with the busing system like Greyhound for example or even Amtrak. Considering how TSA like to make people's lives miserable with all these ridiculous security implimentations and not a single bomber was ever caught. They only got caught AFTER they got into the air, like the shoe bomber for example.
Yiz
[these events took place roughly between 5:30 and 6:30 am, november 13th in terminal 2 of the san diego international airport.
i'm writing this approximately 2 1/2 hours after the events transpired, and they are correct to the best of my recollection.
having left the area, he stated, i would be subject to a civil suit and a $10,000 fine.
I never said it was me, you're the ones that thinks that.
Hence the source link I provided. I don't need to add any comments on the story since the story pretty much speaks for itself.
Wow, where did you guys get the idea is was me in the first place? Geez!
Fark.com isn't the only news source that has the link, reddit.com has it as well as digg.com.
Yiz
[these events took place roughly between 5:30 and 6:30 am, november 13th in terminal 2 of the san diego international airport.
i'm writing this approximately 2 1/2 hours after the events transpired, and they are correct to the best of my recollection.
having left the area, he stated, i would be subject to a civil suit and a $10,000 fine.
[These events took place roughly between 5:30 and 6:30 AM, November 13th in Terminal 2 of the San Diego International Airport. I'm writing this approximately 2 1/2 hours after the events transpired, and they are correct to the best of my recollection. I will admit to being particularly fuzzy on the exact order of events when dealing with the agents after getting my ticket refunded; however, all of the events described did occur.
I had my phone recording audio and video of much of these events. It can be viewed below.
Please spread this story as far and wide as possible. I will make no claims to copyright or otherwise.]
This morning, I tried to fly out of San Diego International Airport but was refused by the TSA. I had been somewhat prepared for this eventuality. I have been reading about the millimeter wave and backscatter x-ray machines and the possible harm to health as well as the vivid pictures they create of people's naked bodies. Not wanting to go through them, I had done my research on the TSA's website prior to traveling to see if SAN had them. From all indications, they did not. When I arrived at the security line, I found that the TSA's website was out of date. SAN does in fact utilize backscatter x-ray machines.
I made my way through the line toward the first line of "defense": the TSA ID checker. This agent looked over my boarding pass, looked over my ID, looked at me and then back at my ID. After that, he waved me through. SAN is still operating metal detectors, so I walked over to one of the lines for them. After removing my shoes and making my way toward the metal detector, the person in front of me in line was pulled out to go through the backscatter machine. After asking what it was and being told, he opted out. This left the machine free, and before I could go through the metal detector, I was pulled out of line to go through the backscatter machine. When asked, I half-chuckled and said, "I don't think so." At this point, I was informed that I would be subject to a pat down, and I waited for another agent.
A male agent (it was a female who had directed me to the backscatter machine in the first place), came and waited for me to get my bags and then directed me over to the far corner of the area for screening. After setting my things on a table, he turned to me and began to explain that he was going to do a "standard" pat down. (I thought to myself, "great, not one of those gropings like I've been reading about".) After he described, the pat down, I realized that he intended to touch my groin. After he finished his description but before he started the pat down, I looked him straight in the eye and said, "if you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested." He, a bit taken aback, informed me that he would have to involve his supervisor because of my comment.
We both stood there for no more than probably two minutes before a female TSA agent (apparently, the supervisor) arrived. She described to me that because I had opted out of the backscatter screening, I would now be patted down, and that involved running hands up the inside of my legs until they felt my groin. I stated that I would not allow myself to be subject to a molestation as a condition of getting on my flight. The supervisor informed me that it was a standard administrative security check and that they were authorized to do it. I repeated that I felt what they were doing was a sexual assault, and that if they were anyone but the government, the act would be illegal. I believe that I was then informed that if I did not submit to the inspection, I would not be getting on my flight. I again stated that I thought the search was illegal. I told her that I would be willing to submit to a walk through the metal detector as over 80% of the rest of the people were doing, but I would not be groped. The supervisor, then offered to go get her supervisor.
I took a seat in a tiny metal chair next to the table with my belongings and waited. While waiting, I asked the original agent (who was supposed to do the pat down) if he had many people opt out to which he replied, none (or almost none, I don't remember exactly). He said that I gave up a lot of rights when I bought my ticket. I replied that the government took them away after September 11th. There was silence until the next supervisor arrived. A few minutes later, the female agent/supervisor arrived with a man in a suit (not a uniform). He gave me a business card identifying him as David Silva, Transportation Security Manager, San Diego International Airport. At this point, more TSA agents as well as what I assume was a local police officer arrived on the scene and surrounded the area where I was being detained. The female supervisor explained the situation to Mr. Silva. After some quick back and forth (that I didn't understand/hear), I could overhear Mr. Silva say something to the effect of, "then escort him from the airport." I again offered to submit to the metal detector, and my father-in-law, who was near by also tried to plead for some reasonableness on the TSA's part.
The female supervisor took my ID at this point and began taking some kind of report with which I cooperated. Once she had finished, I asked if I could put my shoes back on. I was allowed to put my shoes back on and gather my belongs. I asked, "are we done here" (it was clear at this point that I was going to be escorted out), and the local police officer said, "follow me". I followed him around the side of the screening area and back out to the ticketing area. I said apologized to him for the hassle, to which he replied that it was not a problem.
I made my way over to the American Airlines counter, explained the situation, and asked if my ticket could be refunded. The woman behind the counter furiously typed away for about 30 seconds before letting me know that she would need a supervisor. She went to the other end of the counter. When she returned, she informed me that the ticket was non-refundable, but that she was still trying to find a supervisor. After a few more minutes, she was able to refund my ticket. I told her that I had previously had a bad experience with American Airlines and had sworn never to fly with them again (I rationalized this trip since my father-in-law had paid for the ticket), but that after her helpfulness, I would once again be willing to use their carrier again.
At this point, I thought it was all over. I began to make my way to the stairs to exit the airport, when I was approached by another man in slacks and a sport coat. He was accompanied by the officer that had escorted me to the ticketing area and Mr. Silva. He informed me that I could not leave the airport. He said that once I start the screening in the secure area, I could not leave until it was completed. Having left the area, he stated, I would be subject to a civil suit and a $10,000 fine. I asked him if he was also going to fine the 6 TSA agents and the local police officer who escorted me from the secure area. After all, I did exactly what I was told. He said that they didn't know the rules, and that he would deal with them later. They would not be subject to civil penalties. I then pointed to Mr. Silva and asked if he would be subject to any penalties. He is the agents' supervisor, and he directed them to escort me out. The man informed me that Mr. Silva was new and he would not be subject to penalties, either. He again asserted the necessity that I return to the screening area. When I asked why, he explained that I may have an incendiary device and whether or not that was true needed to be determined. I told him that I would submit to a walk through the metal detector, but that was it; I would not be groped. He told me that their procedures are on their website, and therefore, I was fully informed before I entered the airport; I had implicitly agreed to whatever screening they deemed appropriate. I told him that San Diego was not listed on the TSA's website as an airport using Advanced Imaging Technology, and I believed that I would only be subject to the metal detector. He replied that he was not a webmaster, and I asked then why he was referring me to the TSA's website if he didn't know anything about it. I again refused to re-enter the screening area.
The man asked me to stay put while he walked off to confer with the officer and Mr. Silva. They went about 20 feet away and began talking amongst themselves while I waited. I couldn't over hear anything, but I got the impression that the police officer was recounting his version of the events that had transpired in the screening area (my initial refusal to be patted down). After a few minutes, I asked loudly across the distance if I was free to leave. The man dismissively held up a finger and said, "hold on". I waited. After another minute or so, he returned and asked for my name. I asked why he needed it, and reminded him that the female supervisor/agent had already taken a report. He said that he was trying to be friendly and help me out. I asked to what end. He reminded me that I could be sued civilly and face a $10,000 fine and that my cooperation could help mitigate the penalties I was facing. I replied that he already had my information in the report that was taken and I asked if I was free to leave. I reminded him that he was now illegally detaining me and that I would not be subject to screening as a condition of leaving the airport. He told me that he was only trying to help (I should note that his demeanor never suggested that he was trying to help. I was clearly being interrogated.), and that no one was forcing me to stay. I asked if tried to leave if he would have the officer arrest me. He again said that no one was forcing me to stay. I looked him in the eye, and said, "then I'm leaving". He replied, "then we'll bring a civil suit against you", to which I said, "you bring that suit" and walked out of the airport.
This video starts with my bag and belongings going through the x-ray machine.They're kind of long, and they don't show much, but the audio is really good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7txGwoITSj4
I was in the middle of telling someone that if I was going to be felt up, I wanted it done in public so that everyone could see what it is that the TSA does. Here is the rest of that video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RaFZ1CElU8
After I was escorted out to the ticketing area, I went to have my ticket refunded. I didn't have the opportunity or the presence of mind to turn the camera back on until everyone walked away from me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwFh8HQttTQ Source: http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html