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  Circuit Assembly This Past Weekend "Safeguard Your Spirituality" -Everyone Please Enter-

  by tryingtoexit in

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  so we had our circuit assembly this past weekend, and it was the first one in my life that i told my wife i would not be attending.

  we had a brief conversation on why, and she said well just go to this last one with me, and then when we can discuss what we learn and compare it to why you've been expressing your "new" feelings towards the wts.. i love my wife, and as much as i thought i was gonna hate it i decided to go.

  now that i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness it really didnt bother me that nobody hardly talked to me despite me living in this same area for 4 1/2 years, everybody views me as spiritually weak because i dont go out in service, rarely attend meetings, dont comment, lesson is never underlined, so the "friends" never interact with me anyway and i'm use to it, actually that's the way i prefer it.

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  Threads like this one make me realize how lucky I was that my wife and I got out at the same time.
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  November 15 Watchtower (Study Edition) - discourages showing affection to your spouse

  by CrazyBlonde in

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  another gem from the same edition - article to be studied december 28 - january 3 (which most will miss lol coz of summer vacation) entitled "what do your prayers say about you?

  " page 6 para 19 reads:.

  19 when we are being represented in public prayer, we need to display reverential "fear of god.

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  "I am defin[I]tely not a WT apologist, but I think too much is being read into this. I think they are "discouraging" over the top affection during prayers, like say a full frontal hug between husband a wife, or a group of 5 single pioneer sisters linking arms or holding hands (which I used to see ever stinking mtg, didn't offend me, but was very corny)"

  I tend to agree with this assessment by Trescedu. I don't see a big problem with this.

  I observed some hand-holding by groups, especially at assemblies, and some affection shown by married couples. While I wasn't too bothered by it, I thought it looked kind of strange at times. I can't put my finger exactly on what bugged me about it, it just looked weird. Cameo-d mentioned that it seemed "pretentious", and I think that's what bothered me.

  On the other hand, I can see this "counsel" being taken by judgmental types (who abound at every meeting) and run with in the wrong direction. Lots of little Pharisees in those congregations, you know.
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  Does the name Jehovah actually exist in the original Hebrew language?

  by Yizuman in

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  source: http://www.familybible.org/articles/messianic/jehovah.htm.

  well, then, where did the word jehovah come from?.

  thus the artificial name jehovah came into being.. (yahweh, the new encyclopedia britannica, vol.

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  If you're a JW, try using the term Yahweh in talks and/or everyday speech, and see how quickly you are counseled by elders not to do so.
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  The WTS & The Sound of Music

  by Farkel in

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  i recently watched the classic 1965 film "the sound of music" for the umteenth time.

  it was the winner of 5 academy awards, including best picture.

  i originally saw it on the big screen when it first aired and loved every minute of it.

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  First the Borg, and now von Trapp!* And I agree with both analogies...

  * von Trapp was played by Christopher Plummer, who also played Klingon General Chang in Star Trek VI. No Borg in Trek VI, so I'm stretching the connection a bit.
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  I can't help that I think less of poor spellers

  by gubberningbody in

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  i just do.. if a thread title has misspelled words or someone's rant has misspelled words, all i see are those ragged, misplaced letters all akimbo.. it's like watching early morning tv and i can't notice anything said by the fat woman who doesn't know how to dress for her figure.. i just think silently ... "you're fat and you dress poorly.

  how can you stand it?".

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  What bugs me (doesn't happen here often, if at all, but I've seen it at other web boards) is when people post in Text Message-ese.

  One very commonly misspelled (did I just mis-spell misspelled?) word that I often see, here and elsewhere:

  Definitely (often spelled "definately").
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  Oct.15th WT GB Tells JW Rank & File-You are Our Belongings Stay Humble

  by flipper in

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  the mind control in this latest oct.15th is amazing.

  our lurking jw friend sent us this and it basically tellls witnesses that their opinions don't matter and only god is good .

  it belittles independent thinking and explains that each rank and file jw is owned by the alleged " faithful and discreet slave " .

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  On the "not our own competence" point:

  Essentially, a rock could show up at a person's door, and if God is moving them, they will accept the message.

  It gets the individual jw off the hook in terms of trying to be etremely proficient at delivering the door-door message. The jws are being told that the credit does not belong to them, but to God. In itself, that's not so bad. But....Kind of makes one wonder why they spend so much time rehearsing presentations.
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  Do YOU Consider Persons Who Fornicate As Being "Immoral"?

  by minimus in

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  if we were to accept the bible's view, anyone having sex with someone other than their spouse would be considered "immoral".

  do you still accept that point of view?.

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  I generally don't consider persons who fornicate to be immoral because society (much of it anyway) seems to have evolved in that direction. No one is really shocked any more that umarried people sleep together. It's become the norm.

  That said, if one wants to be strict or technical about it and bring the Bible into it, then sex outside of marriage does fall short of the Biblical ideal. Then again, we fall short of that ideal in many ways.

  I think a happy compromise would be to replace "marriage" with "committed relationship", which is pretty much what many religions have done.
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  Dating in the Real World...

  by darkl1ght3r in

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  ...or, love stinks.

  i am so unprepared for this.

  i feel like a kid just walking into willy wonka's chocolate factory.

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  Obviously, a 20 year-old was not the best measuring-stick in terms of what real-world dating is like. If you get out, and maybe use an online dating service, you should begin to meet more mature women.

  As far as the JW dating experience goes, your post was actually very close to the truth. You also allude to what I consider to be the greatest Catch-22 that JW life has to offer: What to do with those biological urges in light of the fact that getting married when young is generally a very bad idea.

  Of course, what to do is the JW version of Don't Ask Don't Tell - everybody knows that jw youth are sexually active, but as long as it doesn't 'come to light', nobody really asks said youth what they're up to.
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  This Bible passage has always bothered me.......

  by palmtree67 in

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  this is one of 2 bible passages that have always bothered me.. its from judges 19: (the entire chapter, so i will paraphrase.).

  a levite marries himself a concubine.

  she's unfaithful and goes back home.

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  Cameo asked "If sending the pieces of her body out to the 12 tribes was meant to be a message....what exactly was the message supposed to be?"

  The message was that free shipping was available during the time of the Judges.
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  This Bible passage has always bothered me.......

  by palmtree67 in

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  this is one of 2 bible passages that have always bothered me.. its from judges 19: (the entire chapter, so i will paraphrase.).

  a levite marries himself a concubine.

  she's unfaithful and goes back home.

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  Farkel mentioned Numbers 31 and wrote:

  "What possible reason would Moses (through the wishes of Jehovah) want to do this? So the Israelite men could have tiny little sex slaves in their possession, that's why. Otherwise, Moses wouldn't have been so crystal clear just what kind of little girls to save and what kind to slaughter."

  The reasoning (not that I agree) was that, since it was Midianite women who played the major role in seducing Israelite men, they were to be killed, along with men (who would of course be engaged in battle) and boys (who might eventually want to avenge the loss of their parents).

  Moses was ticked off because, initially, the Israelite men spared the Midianite women, who were considered as much a future danger (through seduction of apparently spirtually spineless Israelite men) as Midianite men (via war) would be. The younger virgin women, on the other hand, were evidently more malleable and easily subjugated.