Not good it is to focus on too much peculiar Bible interpretation, Yoda would say. Stay focused on the main message or the vital parts.
Patrick45
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Seven Shepherds Eight Dukes
by Ish Elon inwho is the assyrian?.
the article entitled seven shepherds, eight dukesawhat they mean for us today in the watchtower of the 15th november 2013 contained this important warning in paragraph 16: ain the near future, jehovahas apparently vulnerable people will come under attack from the modern-day aassyrian,a whose intent will be to wipe them out.a it goes on to say: awhat asecret weapona does micahas prophecy indicate jehovah would raise up against that implacable foeaathe assyriana?
a very unlikely oneaaseven shepherds, yes, eight dukesa!
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I have nothing left in the tank, I need help
by Yondaime ini dont have the willpower to attend meetings anymore.
i'm literally on the sound system list every week.
i'm either reading on sunday or tuesday, praying on tuesday nites, adjusting mics, passing mics, or working the sound system, or doing last minute parts for the service meeting.
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Patrick45
Take a chatter session with an elder and tell him what you like and are willing to do and what your schedule does not allow anymore. Tell them that you are exhausted and that you need a little slowdown.
He will most likely pressure you to drop the college. If there are unskilled workers who cant meet the ends or have to do shifts or overtime and therefore miss lots of theocratic activities or who have become inactive, name those and tell the elder that you dont want to end up this way. Better doing some sacrifices now for a limited time than for the rest of your working carreer.
Use this or similar if applicable. Never use lies!
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I am sooo screwed
by Yondaime inso last night i was talking to my sister about how i admired president obama's speech to the u.n that happened earlier that day.. i then compared the extremism of isis to how much of a fanatic my jw bil is.. at the end of the statement , my mom walked in to the kitchen.
she was standing in the living room and she heard everything i said.. she called the elders that night to tell them what i said so they can counsel me.. i'm going to meet with them after the meeting on sunday!.
what do i do?!!!!!.
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Patrick45
Just in a very polite manner decline the backroom session. Thank them for their concerns and reassure them, that you will search counsel in case of need.
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Glory of creation is still untouched!
by Pinku inaccording to plato, the universe thrives on its own, dies and gets rebornall on its own and within itself.
the wise symbolized this concept in ouroboros, a serpent eating its own tail.
[even more wonderful is the marvel called a fruit-bearing treeit does not even eat its own fruit, but simply subsists on mostly what we may consider as dirt/refuse; and trees collectively perform yet another marvel of photosynthesis that make use of our wastes and give us oxygen, food, water, shelter, fiber..........................................[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/opinion/to-save-the-planet-dont-plant-trees.html?_r=0].
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Patrick45
Those touting laws of physics should also consider the law of entropy and the law of cause and effect.
In regards of entropy, here one thought. Shoot at a washing maschine and hope to find it doing the drying and the ironing job afterwards. The living organismes are way more complex than a washing maschine.
Cause and effect. Take a pencil. Think about all the knowledge and the ingenuity that was necessary to come to that simple item.
Now take the whole of the living world with all its complex interdependent processes and systems. A pencil is nothing in comparison. Now is it pure stupidity to consider an incredible enormous and wise and ingenious creator behind all of this?
A book called the Bible says about those who chose to believe the lie of evolution to be without excuse when judgement is spoken. I would not want to stand against a truck in full speed. Compare...
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Spritual Healers.
by quellycatface in.
i don't believe in all this stuff and found it a bit creepy when he laid his hand on my arm, i suffer from "ladies problems" myself.. what's your opinion on this kind of thing??.
should be an interesting discussion.. .
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Patrick45
Every charismatic community should send one gifted person to Africa to provide for cure for Ebola. How many have already gone?
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There will never, never be Peace and Security here on Earth.
by jam inwho are we fooling, as long as we humans exist there.
will never be peace even under god's rule.. i think god realize he have created a mess and said screw this .
and have left us on our own.. each day there is another crisis, what's next.... there is no solution to bring harmony among mankind, hell.
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Patrick45
jam, this is not so wrong. The fact that Jesus will have to rule with a iron shepther and after the millenium there will be a big Gog-Magog war. Salvation here on earth is an illusion. Read Rev. 21 last verses. Even during the millenium the goal will be to enter New Jerusalem. Place of salvation (rev 22:14). Outside nothing good finds perpetual blessings. (v.15)
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Poll--How Many Believe In God, Do Not Believe or Are Not Sure Of His Existence?
by minimus ini believe in god but i'm not sure of anything....what about you?.
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Patrick45
Believing is not an option. The q. is whether you build your life in a positive way upon this faith. Remember, even the demons believe. This hardly gives them any positive outlook for their existence.
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just what am I supposed to believe now??
by purrpurr inwhile i'm glad i found this site, it has also crumbled to bits everything i've believed in my whole life.
i feel like the certainty, magic and wonder has gone out of my life.
this has left a huge hole in my soul.
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Patrick45
You are disappointed, but please dont leave God altogether. Why never eating bread again when your long time baker sold you bad products.
Educate yourself and pick your next bakery carefully. And why not baking your bread yourself?
You can figure out things if you realy want to. Pray and ask for understanding while reading different Bible-translations.
Most important thing is, that you dont need a human mediator. Jesus is also YOUR mediator and you can engage in a relation with him, the son of God.
1. Pet. 5:7 is a very valid help.
Find new friends who respect you for who you are.
God bless.
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What is your biggest gripe with the WT and it's teachings?
by FL_Panthers inas the title says, please list what you find annoying with the organization..
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Patrick45
2 class system. Not-anointed Christians is like unwet water.
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I was "totally" stopped in my tracks by an "atheist" comment.
by booker-t ini must admit i can at times be a little "egotistical" when it comes to knowledge and the bible.
i have studied the bible for so long and have always had a passion for the bible as a jw and as an ex-jw.
i guess that is all i have left when it comes to religion and as humans we do tend to stroke our egos.
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Patrick45
Hi booker-t,
What would be your position if the ark were actually found at mount Ararat?
Check it out.
The question about the nature and the goodness of Yhwh is a valid one.
IMO there was a major problem with genetic mixing back then.
Leaves the Sodom and Gomorra riddle unanswered and some more.
We do not know that much about many things. We are very limited. I choose the way of faith, wherever it might lead me to. Big adventure!