Posts by cookiemaster

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Jehovah is evil

by cookiemaster in

going to the meetings and hearing them say how loving is our god disgusts me.

jehovah is actually a mass murdered.

there's an interesting website called evilbible.com, were all god's murders are listed.

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Phizzy - I agree entirely. The bible is quite clearly a creation of ancient Middle Eastern desert tribes. The old testament so clearly reflects that.

Vidiot - Glad I'm not alone.

Heaven - He seems to be a warlord. But apparently, according to JW's, he hates the ones who love violence. Quite paradoxal.

KateWild - The problem is, that the bible gave us our notion of god. Would you even considered the concept of a god that created the universe without the influence of the bible ? Why not multiple gods why even some different entity ? The people in the western culture, including you, have their concept of god from christendom and it's holy book, the bible. Without this influence it's possible that you wouldn't even have considered such a concept and found a completely different explanation. So, I think that in the western world the monotheistic concept of an all powerful, all whatever, god that created the universe was created by christendom and their bible. You can't sepparate these two.

BU2B - Exactly ! Confirmation bias is extremely powerful in JW's.

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Jehovah is evil

by cookiemaster in

going to the meetings and hearing them say how loving is our god disgusts me.

jehovah is actually a mass murdered.

there's an interesting website called evilbible.com, were all god's murders are listed.

cookiemaster

Going to the meetings and hearing them say how loving is our god disgusts me. Jehovah is actually a mass murdered. There's an interesting website called evilbible.com, were all god's murders are listed. Basically this all too loving god would put Bin Laden's crimes to shame. The bible crearly states how Jehoobla orders mass murder, rapes , pillage, plunder, slavery, child abuse and many more evil things.

He kills a lot of innocent children. Furthermore, a lot of people are killed for really stupid reasons like children being brats, being curious about the ark, refusing to hit a prophet when asked to, preventing the ark from falling over and many more. He orders the Isrealites to show no mercy and kill everything in the path of their invasions, including children animals and sometimes even trees. Jokehova was sadistic from the very start. He creates a "perfect" environment, but allows the devil to roam free in it and tempt them. Also, they are held responsible for eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, BEFORE they possessed the knowledge of good and evil.

He commands that rapists to marry the women they raped after paying some money to the father. What kind of lunatic god would make a rape victim marry her attacker? He orders that girls who aren't virgins on their wedding night to be killed with stones. Nobelievers should also be killed, people that don't listen to prophets, those working on Sabbath, etc, etc. He also doesn't apply the punishments objectively because his favorites, such as king David, are exempt from the death penalty usually imposed.

So my question is, how can JW's, and christians in general, who brag about knowing the bible so well, claim Jeehoba is a god of love and worship him. I'm an atheist now (obciously) but even in the absurd that god would actually exist, I would refuse to worship such an evil creature. A lot of so called pagan gods seem morally superior to the judeo-christian god. So how can they not realise this ? How can anyone say god is anything but evil ? Isn't Satan better since he's not described of doing so many heinous acts ? What do you think ?

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Lies taught by the GB about ....Life, Worldy people & apostates

by williamhconley in

the governing body not only lies to it's members about their true history but also about life itself, worldly people and former members.. here are some of those lies that come to my mind.. .

"jw's are the happiest people on earth" -.

fact: depression, anxiety, fear of punishment, paranoia, is what jw's live with every day.

cookiemaster

Epic post man ! Great job. Funny how they teach teenage boys that all worldly girls are sluts who can't wait to have sex with you. I was raised to truly believe that and my parents always kept warning me not to spend time with worldly girls beacause they'll try to take sexual advantage of me. What a stupid thing to teach your child. Funny how they say porn distorts a man's views on women. The way I see it, they do a lot more damage than porn ever could.

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New Article on JW.org about gay people

by ateograciasadios in

ok, sometimes i go to jw.org just to laugh a bit about the 'food at the proper time', and i would like to know what people think of this hillarious article 'am i attracted to the same sex.

does that mean i am gay?'.

this has to be one of the most remarkable pieces of logic (last paragraph of the article).. the bibles stand is not unreasonable.

cookiemaster

Yeah, well they claim in the latest Awake that none their teachings(Bible's teachings in their own words) contradict science. Which an obvious lie. But that's not surprising since it's what they do. And how can one not lol at their title 'Am I attracted to the same sex. Does that mean I am Gay?'. Well duh !

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Victory in Defeat !

by cookiemaster in

maybe you guys remember that in january, i shared here our situation with the ongoing conflict with the ms that was conducting the wt study in our home.

well, my parents decided to talk to the elders about it.

the last time he held the study in our home he really said some insulting things during it.

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-Xanthippe Thank you !

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Victory in Defeat !

by cookiemaster in

maybe you guys remember that in january, i shared here our situation with the ongoing conflict with the ms that was conducting the wt study in our home.

well, my parents decided to talk to the elders about it.

the last time he held the study in our home he really said some insulting things during it.

cookiemaster

Thank you everyone for your support ! It's amazing to have a place where you can talk about these things. Currently, I'd still prefer to not disclose my identity and just say I'm from an EU country. I am indeed sorry that my parents had to be emotionally hurt, but it was a necesarry evil that allows taking further distance from the borg. This entire affair has indeed started in a childish manner and continued in the same way until now. This elder in question really does have a thing against women. I've heard him times before, when a woman raised a concern, saying that women should shut up and mind their own business when it comes to the affairs of the congregation. Which is really disrespectful.

My parents are very firm on not going to any further group studies at that MS's house. It's obvious that his disrespectful behavior will only continue and get worse. He's very arrogant and fanatic when it comes to the doctrine. He basically keeps his 26 year old daughter hostage in their home. It's been that way her entire life. At 20 she got away and moved with her sister to another country. She there had a worldly boyfriend and even had sex with him, so she got disfellowshipped. While her sister remained there and never talked with her parents again, she returned home, prayed for their mercy and eventually got reinstated. She now suffers from depression and her father does not allow her to leave the house without being acompanied by one of her other siblings or mother. She's basically a hostage. Not allowed to go have any social contact outside the meetings even with brothers. I'm telling you all this so you'll understand what kind of a scum her father is.

I am trying to awake my parents to see the harsh reality. However, is not easy considering that they spent the vast majority of their lives being witnesses. It's very hard to accept that you've wasted four of the best decades of your life for this cult. I'm trying to take them slow, but at a constant pace. As I've learned from others on this forum, it's often better to talk at first about other cults so they can make a comparison in their mind. As they keep distancing themselves from the borg, I will intensify my efforts at digging at their misguided faith. Hopefully, not long from now we will all be free.

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Victory in Defeat !

by cookiemaster in

maybe you guys remember that in january, i shared here our situation with the ongoing conflict with the ms that was conducting the wt study in our home.

well, my parents decided to talk to the elders about it.

the last time he held the study in our home he really said some insulting things during it.

cookiemaster

Maybe you guys remember that in January, I shared here our situation with the ongoing conflict with the MS that was conducting the WT study in our home. Well, my parents decided to talk to the elders about it. The last time he held the study in our home he really said some insulting things during it. So my father went and told the elders about it.

The next week we had the CO visit. So we were all going towards the location were the CO was about the hold the meeting previous to going in field circus (not sure how this meeting is callled in English speaking countries). Anyway we were all in the car, including the elder my father talked to. He started saying that he heard about our little problem and he's going to take care of it, and that he certainly doesn't like what's going on in this study group. My mother starts sharing some details about what happened more precisely but he tells her to shoosh cause women shouldn't be talking against brothers in the cong. Also on a pissed tone he says that under no circustances we are to disclose this situation to the CO.

We all went in field circus and later in the afternoon he called that the CO will come to our house in a sheparding visit. My parents said that they would like to talk to him about this situation with the MS. He got angry and said they should do whatever the hell they want, if they're not going to obey his indications. This elder spent the entire hour in the parking lot outside our house in the CO's car. He didn't come in at all. The CO came in with another elder and started talking about how we need to continue our spiritual progress, that we should sacrifice everything we got for Jokehova, and blah, blah, blah kept on going for an hour without having an actuall conversation with us. Basically he gave a public talk to three people.

They left, the week with the CO visit was over and now it was time for us to keep the WT study again. The elders called that they're going to come and participate also (for the first time in many months). So two elders came, one of them gave a talk (to 8 people, lol) and then it was the MS's turn to conduct the WT study. He slipped a small insult this time too. Upon the study ending my parents were anxiously waiting to see how the elders are going to take care of the problem. That elder I was talking about previously said they have two new announcements. From now on the WT study is be held on Saturdays from 7 PM by our group. Secondly, the study is being moved to the MS's house, and we should go into service with the MS every Saturday and then study at his house. How is this a fix ? My parents were shocked and speachless. The MS left and the elders stayed a little more but they've offered only cold and rude answers. My parents said that they expected for the insult problem to be taken care or at least discussed but they quickly changed the subject and ignored them, and they left too.

My parents see this as a big defeat from the MS. They're also very unhappy with the way the elders treated them. I tried to intensify their displeasal and alienation from the congregation, taking advantage of the situation. I see this as a big victory. My parents said they're not going to go to any meetings at that MS's house and maybe not even at the upcoming two day assembly (awesome !). My mother even mentioned that another discouraging situation like that could make them fall from the truth (Yaaaay ! ). Honestly, I'm really happy with how the things turned out and I hope that as time passes I will be able to make them further and further away from this cult and liberate us all.

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Is the Russian action in the Crimea prophetic gold for the GB?

by konceptual99 in

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so chatter on the net and in coffee shops suggests lots of speculation about the re-emergence of russia as the king of the north.

does this political situation give the gb a golden opportunity to simply let speculation about prophecy fly and keep people distracted from the fact that nothing they have prophecied has actually come true?.

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cookiemaster

Yeah it does. My parents, and other of their old paranoid JW friends, can't wait to hear news like this. They're just so excited right now. In their mind it's a sure thing the big A is coming right now. And don't get me started on the whole UN criticizing the Vatican thing. That made a lot of waves.

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Free Will - What a Joke !

by cookiemaster in

everytime i hear jw's talking about free will, i either feel the urge to burst in laughter or feel sick.

each publication keeps talking about how wonderful jokehova is for giving us free will.

the only small thing is that he'll kill you if you don't do exactly what he says.

cookiemaster

Yadda, as I've said, I've chosen my words poorly as English is far from being my first language, so even though it might have seemed that I was trying to make a big philosophical statement, in reality as was trying to refer more to big life choices in general. Furthermore, I now realize that I was also very confused since in my native language, the term WT magazines use is more of what you would define as freedom to make a choice, not free will as defined in the English language. Actually, in my native language there isn't even a word to define free will. Anyway, apologies in case I've offended you.

HayDay, I find myself in complete agreement with your views. I couldn't have put it better myself. I wonder what would happen if science would advance to the point where immortality is possible for humans. Anyway, congratulations ! I love how eloquently you've put it.

Frazzled, that's exactly why I was bothered so much. The whole thing reeks of Orwelian speak but all jdubs seem to be blind to it. I doubt they even heard of a "worldy" author such as George Orwell.

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War over preparing for WT study

by cookiemaster in

i know that title sounds weird but so is this situation.

with the following information i'm about to desconspire myself a little bit, but i don't really care since i will simply deny it if any of my elders are lurking here.

anyway the situation is the following.

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Keynumber thanks for the advice, it's really sound.