Ozzie said:
betcha he doesn't.
I say:
betcha he does.
But ya still me mate Ozzie!!!!
this just in on cnn, he and two others foung guilty and they are to die by hanging, although he has a 10 day window to appeal, i think they said it was to happen (death) within 30 days.. orb.
Ozzie said:
betcha he doesn't.
I say:
betcha he does.
But ya still me mate Ozzie!!!!
i have read several posts by posters who fervently hope jws will become a mainstream religion, or will become "the truth," or will stop teaching this doctrine, or tweak that one, and "oh, if they would only [fill in the blank].".
such dreaming will, in the end, come to naught.
there are practical reasons why.. (1) the rank and file have no authority over the governing body.. (2) the rank and file do not hold sway over any of the corporate interests.. (3) the vast majority of memorial partakers are not credible in the eyes of the governing body, nor do they have any authority over anything.. (4) the organization shows a willingness to publicly claim beliefs to which jehovah's witnesses do not actually subscribe in order to improve public image (see lisa's interview with j.r. brown), while retaining the same hard-line beliefs in reality.. (5) the governing body is unwilling to relinquish control over the organization, to share authority with underlings (e.g.
If this is God's organization, only He can fix it. If it's not, why bother?
Very well put my dear Doubting Brother. For me, that is the beginning and the end of the argument.
sorry if this has already been asked before.
i was just curious, because i think it would be really cool to have a former "big wig" jw post here.
I think there could easily be an ex "do" posting on this board.
I personally know three "co's" and one "do" who have left the organization.
yesidid
hey everybody, i had an interesting time pushing a tract that i don't believe in this weekend.
i had to develop my own method of placing it without having to talk about it, since i fear if i was confronted by someone asking "do you people think you're the only true religion", i might break down and tell the person at the door "no, i don't".
the witness at the door with me would scream in terror, and i would be insta-dfed.
Sorry Anita, but you have not yet earned the privilege of pontificating on ex-JW's and what they should or should not do.
You have not even walked two steps in their shoes, let alone the required mile.
hey everybody, i had an interesting time pushing a tract that i don't believe in this weekend.
i had to develop my own method of placing it without having to talk about it, since i fear if i was confronted by someone asking "do you people think you're the only true religion", i might break down and tell the person at the door "no, i don't".
the witness at the door with me would scream in terror, and i would be insta-dfed.
sKally
Actually it was a warm, caring, thoughtful thread full of understanding gracious, kind people .........................until you came.
i have tried in vain to email ray franz through his editor.
could someone here who has a more direct way of contacting him deliver a message for me?
please pm me if you can help.
This is what Kimberlee Norris said in the other thread. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/122545/2.ashx
The same ruling in an ancillary case has been appealed to the Calif court of appeals and the Calif surpreme court, where rulings were issued in favor of the plaintiffs (abuse survivors).
We got the documents we needed from the ruling.
We are still exploring fact witnesses concerning practices of WTS, related to abuse outcries.
If you are aware of incidents of cover-up, please contact me at
thank you-
Kimberlee D. Norris
Love & Norris
seeing every witness is giving out 50 of the kn 37 brochure three hundred million (300,000,000) will be warned of their impending destruction.. shame about the remaining five billion seven hundred million.
5,700,000,000, oh well too bad..
Seeing every Witness is giving out 50 of the KN 37 brochure three hundred million (300,000,000) will be warned of their impending destruction.
Shame about the remaining five billion seven hundred million. 5,700,000,000, Oh well too bad.
california court tells watchtower society to make public the silentlambs files revealing who among jehovahs witness are pedophiles etc:.
http://silentlambs.org/newsletter/newsletteritem.cfm?sendoutid=489.
Hi Kimberlee,
Thank you for updating and explaining details we peasants are not aware of.
You said:
We got the documents we needed from the ruling.
Did you mean you actually have them, or that the court has ruled that the WBTS must, at some time in the future, hand them over?
And going on from that: What would stop the WBTS from shredding and not handing over any or some?
Thanks again for keeping us informed.
yesidid
it is interesting to read the posts here.
people desperately trying to convince themselves that they were right to give up!.
is this your purpose in coming here????.
Hi Scotty,
You said ex Witnesses:
Dig up the past ALOT. Qouting ancient Watchtower articles etc. (light gets brighter people)
I guess it really annoys you when the society keeps printing negative things about the Catholic church that happened hundreds of years ago, right?
yesidid