Posts by joe134cd

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Ex JW Flag or a Bumper Sticker?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

i was wondering would you like to have ex jw flag or a bumper sticker?

if you know how to do some graphics, i would like to see your designs.

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False members numbers

by asp59 in

is watchtower faking there member numbers?

i live in europe.

for the last 15 year's probably 25 person i knew or more were df, pimo, left by own will, inactive.

joe134cd

The Mormon church gives around .7 of 1% of it annual income to charitable causes. It really is nothing .

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Is the jab required to attend meetings ?

by zachias in

my wife has begun to attend meetings at the kh.. do the wt ask if attendees have had the jab?

anyone know?.

thanks.

joe134cd

Smiddy3 - is that a rhetorical question.

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JW Church is "Uncooperative" in Investigation

by Attewc in

came across this local article in a small town nearby.

video names the church as jw's:.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/child-sex-crimes-alleged-kingsburg-015601519.html.

joe134cd

I fully aware that I shouldn’t be giving WT such good advise. BUT JUST GO AND COOPERATE WITH THE POLICE YOU DUMB ARSES!!!

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False members numbers

by asp59 in

is watchtower faking there member numbers?

i live in europe.

for the last 15 year's probably 25 person i knew or more were df, pimo, left by own will, inactive.

joe134cd

Road to no where : this goes back to how some organisations are better at hiding critical information than others.

In 2021, Walmart.org donated more than $1.4 billion in cash and in kind donations globally.

Child: Walmart India Pvt.Ltd.

https://walmart.org

Walm art.org

Since the organization's inception in 1985, Latter-day Saint Charities has provided over $2.3 billion worth of assistance in 197 countries. 2020 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc.24/02/2020

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org › ...

Latter-day Saint Charities Blessed Millions of Lives in 2019

I’ll let you decide on the charitable nature of the lds.

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False members numbers

by asp59 in

is watchtower faking there member numbers?

i live in europe.

for the last 15 year's probably 25 person i knew or more were df, pimo, left by own will, inactive.

I totally agree,that the next 10 years won’t hold well for the cult.. However, they will by no means be alone. The lds is estimated to be worth half a trillion dollars. Weather the JWs run out of money or the Mormon church run out of members is anyone’s guess.

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False members numbers

by asp59 in

is watchtower faking there member numbers?

i live in europe.

for the last 15 year's probably 25 person i knew or more were df, pimo, left by own will, inactive.

joe134cd

JW gone bad. But when you factor in, of that 6.7 U,S mormons, only 2 million are actually involved in the movement. It is also estimated that there could be as little as 1.5 million through out the world that are tithing paying temple recommend holders. A completely different story begins to emerge. My advice is take Mormon figures with a grain of salt.

I think the Mormon church may be doing worse than the JWs with regard to retention. They just hide it better.

Slim sums it up so well with the comment “ JWs wish they had the mormons money. While mormons wish they had the activity rates and spread of the JWs.

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Three children families stop step decline in Mormon membership

by joe134cd in

i just posted this on a seperate thread, but i think it deserves its own thread.

this is with regard to the pew survey that states “2 out of three 3 born into the jehovah’s witness faith.

will not remain in the faith as adults.”.

joe134cd

Rivergang- I totally agree with you. The point In question is the activity rates of the 2 different groups. Those that consistently turn up to their religious denominations and are actively engaged.

I totally disagree that Wt is forging numbers. I think they are perhaps been overly truthful. When you start comparing similar groups, that are also having the same problems. It makes the 8 million publisher count look very reasonable.

In a very broad and general sense I’d that SDA, LDS, JWs, are all similar in membership. Factoring in those that truly believe it. Are in it for family reasons etc.

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Three children families stop step decline in Mormon membership

by joe134cd in

i just posted this on a seperate thread, but i think it deserves its own thread.

this is with regard to the pew survey that states “2 out of three 3 born into the jehovah’s witness faith.

will not remain in the faith as adults.”.

joe134cd

Baihi- here is my side of the story let’s hear yours.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5926017217593344/lds-statistics-extension-may-suggest-that-jws-could-bigger-more-engaged-membership

Here are some things to think about.

LDS rely on a 3 children birth rate to support membership in the USA. The JWs lose 2/3 of their children, to support their membership in the USA.

The lds claims a world wide membership of 16 million. When in reality some estimates say it could be as low as 3 million. Those who believe it enough to hold a temple recommend would certainly be lower than that.

We compare this with the JW 8 million world wide. The 3 million and the 8 million are certainly with in range of each other.

Even if 50% of the JW were PIMO. It would make the 3 million lds figure look very believable.

In the country I live in, which is outside the USA. The census shows there are twice as many members claiming to be JWs as the publisher count. However, in recent times the census has shown a drop while publisher count has remained steady. This could be explained as recent leavers are more aware of the BS of watchtower, rather than leaving for more secular reasons, but still identify with it.

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Three children families stop step decline in Mormon membership

by joe134cd in

i just posted this on a seperate thread, but i think it deserves its own thread.

this is with regard to the pew survey that states “2 out of three 3 born into the jehovah’s witness faith.

will not remain in the faith as adults.”.

joe134cd

To be honest I love making comparisons with the LDS. Yes I do believe the JWs are fudging numbers. If anything they are underestimating numbers. Time and time again when you compare the publisher count with the country census, they are vastly different. The JWs certainly are a bigger more engaged religion than that of the Mormon church. I would also suggest when you start making comparisons with a 3.5- 4million lds membership, it makes the 8 million JW membership look very believably.

It just hit me when I heard John Dehlin comment about the 3 member house hold propping the Mormon church up. Yet the JWs lose 2/3 of their youth and still have a more healthier membership. Even if 50% of the JWs are pimo. They still are doing better than the Mormon church. Who is the biggest lier? I’d say the Mormon church.