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  What was the strangest situation in your JW Kingdom Hall? Was it weirder than siblings having SEVEN kids together?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is chart-topper: "jehovah's witness whose parents were siblings opens up about their twisted relationship - which saw them having seven children together".

  vanessa, from ohio, appeared on an episode of the we're all insane podcast.

  the 46-year-old explained she is 'one of seven kids born to a brother and sister'.

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  I knew of one locally. She was a super hard nosed PIMI. Her, non jw, husband, was gay. Would spend 3-4 months abroad in Asia with his BF. Then come home to her. They lived in the same house, just had different rooms. It was kind of bizarre as to outward appearances they were the perfect married couple. I believe he cared for his wife and loved her, it’s just they didn’t have sex. They had grown adult children together, and it was through one of the children I found out. They were also very wealthy, and owned a very large pice of land, in one of most expensive suburbs in the country. so I’m guessing that could of been another factor that kept them together
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  Watchtower intentionally misleading the court?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  seems to me wt lawyers and witnesses cannot be trusted even under oath.. mara mitchell writes.

  as far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”.

  attached is a video on how watchtower presents family members being treated by their family when defending themselves in court.. .

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  I’ve said this many a time, and no doubt a few have tried. That Id love to see that arse, or ass, lose his license to practice. Id dear say he must of received a lot of hate mail after that. Can anybody tell me if he’s a JW. I believe he is a secular lawyer.
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  I am not redsetter, here is his message for you

  by redsetter2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you read this correctly.

  as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.

  i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.

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  Sounds a bit bull shitty and conspiratory. However, last time I said that,with regard to KH in Chile flying the national flag, it turned out to be true.
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  Advice on fade?

  by NotNorwich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i’ve just joined here and am hoping for some advice.

  i was baptised a long time ago but left soon after (da).. i recently returned and have a bible study.

  was reinstated about a year ago.

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  My advise as a successfully fader of 11 years:

  - When dealing with orthodox JWs the less said the better off you’ll be.

  - Don’t try to fix what isn’t broken. Been outspoken will only have one outcome. JC are highly stressful and unnecessary. Walk out the door, say nothing and you’ll feel a lot better for it.

  - If you leaving for secular reasons. Remember leaving a restrictive religion is one thing; the body been the temple of God is something quite different. However, I don’t think this is the case with you. Confuse the two, or failing to distinguish the difference between these things, and it will not go well for you. Good luck my friend.
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  The TWO new things to come this year for J.W Org !

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  while having my first strong black coffee of the day, i was thinking about what may be to come next as the org.

  rapidly goes mainstream, and this is what i came up with :.

  1) they will introduce for sunday, the after meeting fellowship, a time for just chatting but with the added bonus of coffee and snacks.

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  Honestly I think the cup of tea afterward would be a fantastic idea. For the cost of milk and teabags and, hu hum, free labour, it could a very cheap option. The church that I go to does it, and it’s a very enjoyable experience.
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  Although no one has proof of record keeping or the hiring of outside sources. I’d say WT would be pretty naive, if not foolish, if they didn’t.
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  Attended the KH recently and found it to be thoroughly therapeutic.

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had to attend a family event recently which involved attending the kh.

  before i went i had it in my mind this was going to be a different experience.

  tbh i’ve had an interest in super hero socks.

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  I had to attend a family event recently which involved attending the KH. Before I went I had it in my mind this was going to be a different experience. Tbh I’ve had an interest in super hero socks. So as a one finger salute to Toney I wore my bright blue and red super man socks. I sat in the hall cross legged pulling my pants leg up to expose the socks. Also as I was getting changed to go. I looked at my meeting ties and thought I’m going to go with an open shirt.

  When the service began and I was sitting there boldly and proudly with my super man socks and no tie. I thought bugger it I’m going to use the opportunity to do some apostate catch-up on the internet.

  After the service everyone was happy to see me, and took a deep breath that I no longer have put up with their nonsense.

  Get to the family venue. The first song on the playlist was from “system of the down.” Which shocked me. I observed another brother there on the dance floor looking some what intoxicated. I thought bloody good on him. So over all I thought the function was a good experience in my opinion.
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  Elderly and sick: Out of sight, out of mind

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone else posted something a similar experience, this is one i had regarding my mom.my mom died last year.

  she had been in failing health for years, but the last 2 year were pretty rough for her, with lots of visits to the hospital.

  the last 4 months, it was the hospital, a skilled nursing facility/rehab unit, and finally, a nursing home.

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  Im going to relate a couple of examples of after care given to elderly members,

  1, A relative of mine, an orthodox JW for 75 years. Had a stroke, and was mentally incapacitated. To their credit some in the congregation - myself included - offered a couple hours during the day, so the family could sort the immediate affairs out. With in 7 days they found themselves in the back room, been told that the congregation isn't a charity. I couldn't believe it, after 75 years of loyal service.

  Interestingly, the elder who gave this advice also found himself on the receiving end of it, when he to was dying. I had heard that during the last few years of his life he was feeling isolated at home and wanted visitors. I kind of did, but didnt, feel sorry for the guy because he had been in it for close to 100 years.

  2. Another Orthodox JW relative. In rest home care for dementia. In passing, I happened to ask the nursing staff about the visitors she was getting. The reply I got was, "once dementia sets in, they are generally forgotten about." I'm guessing by that comment the JWs are no exception to the rule.

  3. What amazes me, until very recently, how they will spend hours of their time and money knocking on empty doors. Yet do so little in the care and retention of their existing members. I've said this before on here, when i attended a sales course, and the point I come away with is this, "it takes x5 times the effort to gain a new customer than what it takes to keep an existing one happy." I certainly think Wt could learn from this.
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  How will history treat Judge Rutherford?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  mark jones writes:.

  how will history treat joseph rutherford?.

  like ben gorden has said, it would depend on who’s looking back.

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  As far as active membership, I’d suspect, the JWs have a bigger more involved membership.
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  Field Service

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?.

  are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?.

  what is the response?.

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  The minute they stopped counting time. My fathers computer got put away on a Saturday. And now he kicks back in his chair. Bless you my sweet dad. He is assigned to stand beside a cart every do many weeks. It’s more just a social thing for him now.