I was thinking about this post last night. The cost and responsibility of freedom, and how I relate to it. I have a relative that thought he could live with out rules when he left the JWs. To be fair I think he had issues even while he was JW, but certainly lived every bit of freedom. He is now addicted to drugs, homeless living in a car with a popped ignition, and all of his kids taken off him. He is in a very sorry state of affairs. Is he specifically to blame, was it the religion, or was it a combination of the two. Idk, but it’s sobering to think on.
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How to tell my parents that i dont want to be a jw?Please help, im begging...
by ihatemylife infist of all my first language is not english so i apologise for any mistakes.i am 17 my whole family is jw.i am so sick of this i cry all the time i wasted my teen years doing nothing, no friends, no parties, no going out, no fun.i am scared for my life because if i tell them they will kick me out, i have no money to move out.i am curentlly studying the bible with my mom just because i am scared to tell her that i dont want to.please help me with some advice im begging.my life depends on this......
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How to tell my parents that i dont want to be a jw?Please help, im begging...
by ihatemylife infist of all my first language is not english so i apologise for any mistakes.i am 17 my whole family is jw.i am so sick of this i cry all the time i wasted my teen years doing nothing, no friends, no parties, no going out, no fun.i am scared for my life because if i tell them they will kick me out, i have no money to move out.i am curentlly studying the bible with my mom just because i am scared to tell her that i dont want to.please help me with some advice im begging.my life depends on this......
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joe134cd
Truth_b_known - I thought that was a very beautiful piece of writing.
Always remember that freedom comes at a cost. Some who leave the JWs fail to heed this warning and very soon find themselves in some very unfavourable circumstances. Maybe through their own fault, perhaps a result of a jw up bringing,or maybe a combination of the two. I’m still undecided. One thing I can certainly tell you is that if you are leaving because of not been able to go out and party. This could very well come back and bite you. Hence I always ask the question do the reasons for leaving ,and the age at which a person leaves, effect the outcome.
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Looking Back Were There Any “Apostates” In Your Congregation?
by minimus ini remember knowing some jws that expressed their own personal viewpoints regarding what a scripture meant that was at odds with society teachings.
in the 60 and 70’s, that was pretty much tolerated until the great purge in 1979 and 1980. as a matter of fact, it wasn’t unusual for witnesses to get together and discuss personal questions and viewpoints they might have.
it wasn’t unusual to send letters to the society asking what was considered the right or wrong view.
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joe134cd
I think most who drift away do so because they don’t accept the final word of the organization.
I disagree! I believe most leave because they see the JW code of conduct as been restrictive. Those who leave to indulge in the pleasures of the world ,as apposed to 607BCE been wrong, would be vastly different. I would also suggest that those who leave for the reason of 607 been wrong, would be older in age and would generally, do better in the outside world.
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First 3 Presidents never knew JC began his reign as King in 1914 ?
by smiddy3 inthe first 3 presidents of the i.b.s.a ./ jehovah`s witnesses / wtb&ts.. w.h.conley ,c.t.russell ,j.f.rutherford .. how many jehovah`s witnesses know that ?
how many ex jehovah`s witnesses knew that ?
the wt society teaches that jesus returned to begin his "invisible presence" in 1914 directing his attention toward the earth as ruling king.
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joe134cd
I would say not many. I had an ultra dub pioneer relative tell me that the overlapping generation was old light when I started questioning him about it.
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Profiles on tinder
by joe134cd ini decided to set up a tinder account a while back.
the other day, while looking through profiles, something really stood out to me.
particularly, with the female tinderites, i was impressed by the level of honesty, open communication, no interstest in one night stands, and moon light beach walks.
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joe134cd
I decided to set up a tinder account a while back. The other day, while looking through profiles, something really stood out to me. Particularly, with the female Tinderites, i was impressed by the level of honesty, open communication, no interstest in one night stands, and moon light beach walks. Here is my question? If the above is true, then why in my country do we have an abysmally high STI infection, with a 50% divorce rate to match.
Here is another thing I noticed. I was struck by just how much people were into good living standards. Most profiles stated that they worked out at the gym, got their 5 a day, and were staunch vegans. If this is true, then why do I live in one of the fattest nations in the world. Where are all these people excising in the morning because I certainly dont see them.
Here are a few conclusions i reached and i am wanting feed back.
People on tinder are in fact a different subset to the general population. If this was true you would think numbers would be skyrockting with people wanting to join.
People on tinder are deluded as to their true identitiy. This would create a two fold problem with meeting in person. Because not only have you been deluded enough to hide an unattractive trait, but you have also shown you were deluded enough to turn up in person a reveal it. If the object was to get laid, this certainly wouldnt help the cause.
People on tinder a lyers. I hate to say this, but for me this is the most likely answer. It is also the most hardest to understand, the mentality behind it. I mean the ultimate goal would be to at least meet a prospective profile in person. I see tinder as a vehicle that i drive to get to a destination. If i get to that destination and find that it isnt what it is described in the book then its game over. So why try to cover it up in the first place. Hey if your a pack a day man,with a beer belly and discoloured teeth,then I say stand tall. Id have more respect for you if you did.
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New Light on Sheep and Goats?
by notsurewheretogo inlloyd evans has just tweeted a video he will be releasing soon on the "change" to the meaning of the sheep and goats and when that is to occur.. i've missed any discussion on that on here or anywhere?
it seems it was part of the 2020 annual meeting the gb had?.
any info on this?.
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joe134cd
maybe they will be geep and shoats from now on.
I think, “hick”AM3 “hick” has had a bit to much to drink.
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Mexico: 2020 Census results released; bad news for the org?
by Corney ina decade ago, the 2010 census found there were 1,561,086 jehovah's witnesses in mexico (census page > tabular data > basic questionnaire > religion).
and according to the recently released 2020 census results, the number of mexicans identifying as such has declined by 2% to 1,530,909. both figures greatly outnumber those reported by the organization (e.g., peak publishers: 710 thousands and 874 thousands respectively), which means the former ones include children and free-riders.
for comparison, the total population has grown by 12%, the catholic, adventist (sda) and mormon (lds) populations - by 5%, 16% and 6% respectively.
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joe134cd
Menrov - What slim is trying to say is that the demographics of an inactive has changed. For example a person becoming inactive because he wants to watch the football on Sunday morning, but still believes it to be the truth. Therefore, he identifies with the religion in the census. To that same person been exposed to negative information via the internet, or news media, and not self identifying as a jw.
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Mexico: 2020 Census results released; bad news for the org?
by Corney ina decade ago, the 2010 census found there were 1,561,086 jehovah's witnesses in mexico (census page > tabular data > basic questionnaire > religion).
and according to the recently released 2020 census results, the number of mexicans identifying as such has declined by 2% to 1,530,909. both figures greatly outnumber those reported by the organization (e.g., peak publishers: 710 thousands and 874 thousands respectively), which means the former ones include children and free-riders.
for comparison, the total population has grown by 12%, the catholic, adventist (sda) and mormon (lds) populations - by 5%, 16% and 6% respectively.
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joe134cd
This subject interests me regarding the growth rates of religious groups, and success of the methods used. I have written on this subject many times. Here is one example.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5926017217593344/lds-statistics-extension-may-suggest-that-jws-could-bigger-more-engaged-membership
Although the census does show 3 other religious groups out preforming the JWs. What it doesn’t show are the activity rates and the depth of involvement by its members. Let’s make this clear, saying and doing are two different things. Btw take lds membership with a grain of salt.
However, the Mexican census does support a few things. The counting methods used by the JWs tends to underestimate rather than overestimate. Generally, census figures tend to be twice that of what WT reports. This would support that Wt is been honest with it’s counting. Interestingly, the memorial attendance is around 20million, which would account for those who aren’t really involved in the religion.
If you look at the above post. One could justifiably speculate that the jws could perhaps be bigger and more involved than the lds. This becomes even more impressive when you factor in that the lds had a 50 year head start on the JWs. By the the time CT Russel came along the mormons were established in Utah.
In my opinion, the religion to watch is the SDA. Eventually this religion will begin to dominate the JWs/lds. They may even well be doing it now.
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Pioneers, Elder's Wives most self righteous. Etc.
by Overrated inas a jw did you have a pioneer sister/elder's wife who was the biggest busybody, self righteous, arrogant pus in the circuit?
who would look down on others and treat people like crap.. without giving to much away, i experienced one that knew everyone in circuit.
and if she or her husband saw or heard something they didn't like it was " you know what the bible says" regardless if it was in there or not.
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joe134cd
I can think of an elders wife who was a real nasty toxic bitch.
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Interesting place for a KH. My thoughts
by joe134cd inyesterday i happened to be driving through a rural town where i made an observation.
first let me describe this town.
it’s almost a shadow of its former self.
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joe134cd
Yesterday I happened to be driving through a rural town where I made an observation. First let me describe this town. It’s almost a shadow of its former self. I guess this would be a result of urban shift. It is poor, with mainly an indigenous population. Massive problems with the cultivation, manufacture, and usage of drugs. Apart from a grocery store, petrol station and a pub there is absolutely nothing to do. This could be one of the reasons for the high consumption of drugs and birth rate. There has also been issues with gangs. Anyway, you get what I mean.
Here is what really stood out to me. The only 2 churches left in this town were the KH and the LDS. The lds building was impeccably well kept. Although the KH wasn’t to the standard of the lds, and probably more reflected the economic situation of the community, it was still passable. Both buildings were probably of a higher standard to the area they existed in. Telling indeed. Make what you like of it, as to the environments these 2 groups flourish in, and their standard of membership.