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  An elder called me...he's waking up and knew I'd understand...nice for him to have a friend!

  by Julia Orwell in

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  here's a bit of back story on my dealings with this nice man, who i will call sparky:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/248936/1/an-elder-called-me#.uk4ykiami6m.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/249982/1/getting-serious-for-julia#.uk4zd4ami6m.

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  zound

  Nice work!

  It may take time as you mentioned, but sounds like one day he will be free.
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  Can anybody upload the annual meeting recording already?!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there has to be atleast one elder here who was given the annual meeting recording, unless it's in some sealed box where every elder in the congregation has 1 key and all must open it at once, assuring nobody opened it prior to the day.

  but if not, if one of you has it, be a boss and upload it already.

  how funny if the whole thing was online 2 days prior.

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  zound

  I think it's live streamed isn't it? Not prerecorded.
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  The distinction between cult and religion.....

  by NoRegrets in

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  2. beliefs

  another great article from the ted talks.

  opening quote really tells it all: "the distinction between cult and religion lies squarely in how those leaving or those wanting to leave are treated.

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eliyahu-federman/when-organized-religion-become_b_3996139.html?ir=ted+weekends&ref=topbar.

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  zound

  JW's aren't a cult.

  They have a new FAQ on their site that answers "Are JW's a cult?". The answer is no.

  Funny, I always thought it was yes - but apparently it's no.
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  These guys are shameless...

  by zound in

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  2. friends

  the annual meeting is going to be an absolute cash cow for the gb.

  newly released awake - "3 things money cannot buy".

  a double dig at 'storing up treasures for yourself' and higher education.

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  zound

  Oh - they also have a new FAQ question on the website - wait for it... "Are JW's a cult?"
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  These guys are shameless...

  by zound in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the annual meeting is going to be an absolute cash cow for the gb.

  newly released awake - "3 things money cannot buy".

  a double dig at 'storing up treasures for yourself' and higher education.

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  zound

  The annual meeting is going to be an absolute cash cow for the GB. Newly released Awake - "3 things money cannot buy"

  A double dig at 'storing up treasures for yourself' and higher education. Not happy with JW's living on the poverty line - the GB really really want to push them under it.

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201310/3-things-money-cannot-buy/
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  Annual Meeting Instructions to MS / Elders

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have any elders or ministerial servants here recieved any specific instructions regarding the annual meeting?

  as an ms all i have been told to do is to arrive early to "await further instruction due to the sensitive nature of my assignment".

  ironically all i can imagine after hearing that a few times is dispensing cyanide laced kool aid to attendees.

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  zound

  I heard the announcement at the annual meeting is that all the dubs are to move to a compound in the jungle in Guyana.
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  Annual Meeting Agenda

  by Bob_NC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  presented under the guise of jehovah's progressive organization and/or speeding things up during the last days.

  1. announcements about "simplifying arrangements" worldwide, consolidations, moving operations from one country to another.

  a smoke screen for shutting down facilities and laying off workers.

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  zound

  I would bet good money that the new bible will have the term 'governing body' inserted in it.
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  JW's supposedly at Mall shooting

  by zound in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the following is from annointedjw - a website i dislike the more i read from them.

  this reeks of total bs to me, but interested if anyone else has heard about this.. the part that gets me, is how the hell they could know what these jw's did or said if they were killed - who witnessed this?

  and the other thing that makes me rage is that these guys are martyring these jw's to further their own 'ministry' - very watchtower-like.. opinions?.

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  zound

  The following is from annointedjw - a website I dislike the more I read from them. This reeks of total BS to me, but interested if anyone else has heard about this.

  The part that gets me, is how the hell they could know what these JW's did or said if they were killed - who witnessed this? And the other thing that makes me rage is that these guys are martyring these JW's to further their own 'ministry' - very watchtower-like.

  Opinions?

  Out of the terrorist attack at a shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya, on September 21, 2013, comes report of a couple who were shot down because they were Christians. This couple were Jehovah’s Witnesses who had recently found the plain and open teachings of Jesus and had made public declaration of their sonship with God.
  
  According to the report we received, the attackers were going from shop to shop shooting non-Muslims. When a Muslim identified him or herself, they were allowed to go. As a result, some Christians represented themselves as Muslims in order to be spared. This worked for some, but not all. When the attackers reached these two ‘sons of the kingdom,’ they asked if they were Muslims. The couple stood holding hands as they proclaimed their Christ-like devotion and consecration to the Father. They responded: “We are sons of the kingdom of the heaven and our salvation lies with Jesus Christ.” Some more words were exchanged, and their last words were “Do what you will with our bodies,” and with that, they were shot.
  
  We are deeply saddened that mankind continues their primitive battles over religious superiority. We are likewise saddened that the lives of this couple were cut short. But we are inspired by their courage and godly devotion. They knew without question that standing up for Jesus and the kingdom of the heavens under those circumstances would result in their death. Yet, when their personal test arrived, they proved faithful even as far as death and now the crown of life awaits them. (Revelation 2:10) Their example of courage should be remembered and imitated by all sons of God regardless of what name appears on their church marquee.
  
  Though this couple had only recently accepted their sonship, by making this public declaration and defense of their faith at this precipice moment, they stored up more ‘treasures in heaven’ than many will accumulate in a lifetime. (Matthew 6:20-21)
  
  This experience should give perspective to our brothers among Jehovah’s Witnesses who are experiencing trialsome conditions as a result of the public declaration of their hope in their local Kingdom Halls, as we describe in the articles Defending Our Living Hope and Publicly Declaring Our Hope. The trials these brothers and sisters are facing do not compare to the trial this couple faced. The stubborn and disobedient children who masquerade as Christian overseers can only damage or decrease your popularity. They cannot harm your ‘soul.’ (Matthew 10:28) For, after they have done their dastardly deeds, you will be free to carry on the ministry and live your lives on as faith sons of God on earth.
  
  We know that as our world continues its sifting and refining, we may hear many more reports of violence and bloodshed. Mankind is agitated and, whether knowingly or unknowingly, is seeking ‘the freedom of the children of God’ (Romans 8:18-21), especially in the third world and war torn countries. There will be difficult struggles for many, but the Father and Christ will prevail and mankind will know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men. (Daniel 4:25)
  
  In the meantime, while there is a measure of peace in our local communities, let us continue proving ourselves faithful in our daily activities – doing the best and right thing under the circumstances – so that when we are faced with greater challenges, we can come out victorious. Remember:

  “The person faithful in what is least is faithful also in much, and the person unrighteous in what is least is unrighteous also in much.” – Luke 16:10

  
  Let us, by our small and regular acts of courage, build a strong foundation of real, personal and fire-tested faith. When trials come, let us keep our perspective. Few challenges are matters of life or death as was this couple’s. Most challenges are inconveniences and disruptions that can be endured with joy, knowing they all work out endurance. (James 1:2-4) But should we come under such weighty and life-threatening trials, we pray that your and our faith will honor the Father and Christ Jesus as these two courageous sons of God.
  
  May the Father’s joy and excelling peace be with the worldwide Jesus brotherhood.
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  Help with a part in the ministry school... teaches TTATT subtly

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my gf has the part "why are there so many religions".... i need to place some ttatt seeds very subtly... i don't care if they go right above most jw's heads... .

  any ideas?.

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  zound

  There's a WT article about the Catholic church refering to people getting bummed out over "New things" - and changed teachings in the church. Might be an opportune time to mention something like that.

  Probably not that subtle though.
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  NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

  by clarity in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  # 3 newbie post.

  first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

  have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

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  zound

  I'm on that list. I know four others who don't post on here but left WT recently.