Posts by JamesThomas

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It is that simple!!

by Rooster in

john 20:30-31

30 to be sure, jesus performed many other signs also before the disciples, which are not written down in this scroll.

31 but these have been written down that you may believe that jesus is the christ the son of god, and that, because of believing, you may have life by means of his name.

JamesThomas

Rooster:

"YOU are mistaken, because YOU know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God;

No, I am not mistaken. It is unquestionably, undeniably and unequivocally clear within my heart of hearts that I can not honestly, truly and sincerely accept and worship a concept of a god that is in many ways less than most people; just because a "holy" book tells me to. There are many people who have given their life to save strangers, and many more who will (you may be one); yet, your idea of God is so morally small and limited as to demand payment of acceptance and honor before it acts. Do you think, Rooster, that it is more likely God who is truly so limited and inadequate, or mans religious beliefs which are lacking?

Rooster, it may help to stop eating the menu, and instead feast upon the food (we're having chicken). Take your head out of your Bible and step into the reality of life in and around you, and discover the unending Source of your own (and all) being and existence

j

39

It is that simple!!

by Rooster in

john 20:30-31

30 to be sure, jesus performed many other signs also before the disciples, which are not written down in this scroll.

31 but these have been written down that you may believe that jesus is the christ the son of god, and that, because of believing, you may have life by means of his name.

JamesThomas

Yes, it's simple for me.

"believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God, and that, because of believing... YOU may have life by means of his name. "

This simple statement implies what? What if I don't believe, then what? If I don't have "life", as stated above, then it must be the other thing -- death.

Personally, I can not honestly and with a true heart, honor and believe in a deity that will kill me if I do not. I can not honor, worship and believe in a god with morals lower than my own. It's simple. I just can't do it.

j

46

Agnostic or Atheist?

by done4good in

for all of you non-religionists out there: do you consider yourself an agnostic or atheist, and why?

it seems many ex-jws that "loose the faith" have a tendency to go straight for atheism.

i myself, would consider myself more of an agnostic, as i believe we have no real way of knowing if there is a god one way or the other, and it tends to seem just as extreme to me, to insist that there is not one.

JamesThomas

Am I an agnostic or atheist?

Am I philosophical concepts, mental constructs, beliefs and ideas?

What am I, really?

j

57

Hi Im new here.

by IP_SEC in

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friends

my first post out of the box was "what is a dub?

matt.

(shamless self promoter class) .

JamesThomas

Welcome, IP.

A dub, is what you rub, in the tub.

As I recall, I found my dub at a very young age.

j

38

WHY I'M BECOMING A MUSLIM!

by Dansk in

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friends

i came across an interesting site the other day and below is an extract from one of its web pages (does anyone know if the following is actually true as i've never read the quran?).

no wonder so many muslim men wear baggy trousers, it's to hide the erection they get when they look heavenwards!.

what i don't understand is what's in it for the women?

JamesThomas

Black Sheep:

I don't prefer drinking my wine out of a cup, but other than that it sounds pretty good Ian.

Yes, I'm concerned about the cup thing, as well.

j

16

Suppressing Doubts

by The wanderer in

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having been one of jehovah's witnesses for the better part of fourteen years and then having left the organization after having discovered the watchtower society's involve- ment with the united nations has left me second guessing myself.

often times, i ask myself why?-why?

did i not listen to my "gut feelings" when i held certain doubts about the organization?

JamesThomas

Welcome, wanderer.

Following is a great article which may help you understand:

http://www.csicop.org/si/2000-11/beliefs.html

19

My Observation...How Come?

by wozadummy in

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i've nearly finished reading the 2 ray franz books and i've been on this forum for a few months and i've wondered about this:.

on both the books and the forum much is said about the watchtower lying ,misleading ,being a false prophet ,having no conscience toward the after effects of decisions they have made that have effected peoples lives ,even sometimes tragically.. well ,ok ,but my observation is this :very rarely ,if at all, does anyone say directly that the watchtower is lead and influenced by satan.does this mean that :.

ones have lost faith in god /religion because of the watchtower org and now don't really believe in satan now.

JamesThomas

Ones have lost faith in God /religion because of the Watchtower org and now don't really believe in Satan now

Perhaps most people have grown beyond the need of tribal deities and demons...at least on this forum. Also, once one leaves the Witnesses and comes to grips with the total deception of it all, it's as if our vision becomes more clear, and so it may become readily apparent that the most destructive and vile of ideas, is actually the concept of Jehovah the god of armies. Satan is a saint when standing next to this ultimate killing machine.

IMO

j

18

Dead Man Walking (Help!)

by thepackage in

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friends

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im sad to report that my best friend (who is on this message board) has given into pressure from his wife and has started going back to meetings.

i know hell be reading this so, what advise do you have?

JamesThomas

If we have no courage to be true to our own wisdom, then what does it matter? Perhaps there are those of us deserving of slavery.

alt

j

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Do JWS have a relationship with God................?

by vitty in

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how many jws have a real relationship with jehovah ?

i thought i did but looking back it was a relationship with the organization that i had.. i did pray, it always went something like "oh please jehovah make me more appreciative, and stop me being so negative, bored at the meetings and help me to enjoy the fs " .

i always felt the "third voice " you hear while reading the wt, was jehovah, i know it sounds nuts but i think this is why even though i had doubts, i always pushed them to the back of my mind.