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  Which people in here (or apostate) would you like to actually meet in person?

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  i would like to meet so many people!

  actually hang out with them and see if we get along after meeting in person!.

  here's my list:.

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  What Happens at Judicial Committee Meeting on Apostasy

  by passwordprotected in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was a famous case here in the uk, based around the experiences of matt barrie (aka hobo ken).

  we've uploaded the audio recording of his judicial committee meeting with the glasgow bishopbriggs congregation elders and you can listen/download the (long) unedited file here:.

  https://www.dropbox.com/s/k1pajlf7duc5zgh/matt%20judicial%20raw.mp3.

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  What level of IQ does one have, to beleive " TRUTH " changes. ? or old "Light " old truths " New Light " new truths " ?

  by smiddy in

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  okay, i never went to university , or had a college education, though i`m damn sure that "truth" is "truth" and it never changes.. if you" beleived "something was the truth in the past and now found out it was not correct , you cant say it was an" old " truth ,it must have been wrong/false reasoning in the first place......so it was never really the truth.. sure you can be aware of a "new" truth something you never knew beforehand , though whether you knew it or not ,it has always been a truth.

  example:the earth was the centre of the universe ,beleived as a truth.........that beleif was false , it was not an old truth.. if their was something you beleived before as true and you now find it wasnt true , then it was false / untrue .. their is no such thing as an "old truth " and a "new truth" that is apparently accepted by jehovahs witnesses .. if jehovahs witnesses were as honest as they profess , then they would acknowledge when they make adjustments to their beleifs/doctrines that they were wrong in their initial understanding of said scriptures instead of passing it off as old truths or new light.. i was a witness for 33 years before it became obvious something was just not right with this religion and it took another 10-12 years before i found this site , that set me free.

  so i ask , is it an iq level ?

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  NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

  by clarity in

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  # 3 newbie post.

  first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

  have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

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  Need Help - Looks like some one in my family got to know that we are fading...

  by MissConfused in

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  2. experiences

  letter from a close family member... need help responding.... what a powerful illustration of the affect that our choice of friends can have on us, especially if we leave jehovah after being 'raised' by him from infancy!.

  pack of wolvesthere was a farmer who raised sheep and had trouble with wolves stealing his sheep.

  he loved his sheep and didn't want to lose even one of them.

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  There Is No 'Heavenly Hope'!

  by The Searcher in

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  propitiatory sacrifice.

  this is how christ's death is described three times in the scriptures.. the apostle john wrote, "the love is in this respect, not that we have loved god, but that he loved us and sent forth his son as a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins.

  " (1 john 4:10).

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  Irony of Ironies: THE WATCHTOWER WILL END LONG BEFORE THE WORLD DOES!

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was recently acquainted with the exhaustive - and blatantly inaccurate and crazy - theorizing by a "dr thomas", the "founder" of the christadelphians.. he was an earlier "contemporary" of chuck russell - and some have accused russell of "stealing" the christadelphians main teachings.

  they're probably correct in their accusation.

  christadelphians do not believe in the trinity or hellfire, are conscientious objectors who do not vote and who hate catholicism and are scathing in their views of christendom - although like all "decent" religious groups, jws included, have toned down their rabid attacks on other religious groups in recent decades.. dr thomas's quaint - and hilariously self-important - interpretation of scripture, led him on several occasions to predict the end of the world in his own day.

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  CO Disfellowshipped in UK

  by konceptual99 in

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  so, i have it on very good authority that a co has recently been disfellowshipped in the uk.

  he has just finished serving the north west london area.

  i don't know any details but perhaps there is someone who does know what happened.

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  ex-jw-uk

  by bigmac in

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  i'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.

  i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?

  i've already found several by reading older posts..

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  Blood, The Watchtower and Deceit

  by Maximus in

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  while much attention is given to doctrine in sites such as this, very little is noted about the watchtower societys intellectual dishonesty in its publications, especially when it comes to quotations.. oftentimes the societys writers will cite a scholar or author of some repute: "professor blank observes that blah, blah, blah.

  " the reader assumes from the quotation that professor blank is in agreement with the organizations position, of course, and that the quotation chosen accurately depicts the authors thoughts.. heres the catch: the words between the quotation marks may be accurate, but the snippet may not at all faithfully represent someones actual thesis or position.

  much like a newspaper ad for a movie that quotes a reviewer as saying "monumental!

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