Well, I haven't read the book. I've skimmed it. Quite frankly, CoC left me in a state of shock.
I have to say that Franz' books are traumatizing.
Maybe it's just me.
Rosemarie
franz stated something in this mind-blowing book which was definitely true for me.. he stated (this is a poor paraphrase) that very early on during a "study", witnesses can easily show what's in the bible regarding god's name, the condition of the dead, living on paradise earth, etc.
once these are proven to a person's satisfaction, when the study moves on to more complicated matters, it is just easier to accept what isn't understood on the basis that so far, everything has seemed true.
by now, there is an emotional investment -and everything up until now seemed fine, so.....................................let's swallow it all, and what is too difficult to swallow comfortably (blood?
Well, I haven't read the book. I've skimmed it. Quite frankly, CoC left me in a state of shock.
I have to say that Franz' books are traumatizing.
Maybe it's just me.
Rosemarie
i'm new to this, i've spent the past 2 years trying to pull my head out of the bs.
i've refused to live a double life - i have nothing to hide - apparently others think otherwise!
so i'm ignored - no problem, makes the bs easier to ignore.
WELCOME! So glad you're here.
sports illustrated, sept 21, 1998 v89 n12 p116(1) a ringling endorsement: venus and serena williams may be a lot of things, but they're not victims.
(tennis stars venus and serena williams are jehovah's witnesses and take some four to five hours a week to call on people)(brief article)(column) rick reilly.
full text: copyright 1998 time, inc. .
It ain't so bad to be a Witness when you're rich, can break the rules with impunity, and have thousands of persons admiring you.
i got married while i was a jw and have been married for 16 years.
the last 10 years have been totally loveless, and we have merely existed under the same roof, nothing more.
now that i've disassociated myself we have nothing in common at all.
Don't have any advice, but I've been divorced ....twice. It really sucks. Please pm me if you would like to "talk". I've seen only a few of your posts, but you seem extremely intelligent and kind.
posted by hope on 12-18-2002 01:43 pm: .
posted by hope on 12-18-2002 04:25 pm: .
posted by hope on 12-18-2002 04:48 pm: .
I know, Blondie, precious, but it's so difficult.....parent myself???????????? I can't even forgive myself for one mistake I've ever made.
franz stated something in this mind-blowing book which was definitely true for me.. he stated (this is a poor paraphrase) that very early on during a "study", witnesses can easily show what's in the bible regarding god's name, the condition of the dead, living on paradise earth, etc.
once these are proven to a person's satisfaction, when the study moves on to more complicated matters, it is just easier to accept what isn't understood on the basis that so far, everything has seemed true.
by now, there is an emotional investment -and everything up until now seemed fine, so.....................................let's swallow it all, and what is too difficult to swallow comfortably (blood?
Franz stated something in this mind-blowing book which was definitely true for me.
He stated (this is a poor paraphrase) that very early on during a "study", Witnesses can easily show what's in the Bible regarding God's name, the condition of the dead, living on paradise earth, etc. Once these are proven to a person's satisfaction, when the study moves on to more complicated matters, it is just easier to accept what isn't understood on the basis that so far, everything has seemed true. By now, there is an emotional investment -and everything up until now seemed fine, so.....................................let's swallow it all, and what is too difficult to swallow comfortably (blood? 1914?) just kind of gulp it down anyway. It's probably true....the WTS does know better, obviously. YOU didn't know God's name, did you? You didn't know the dead were conscious of nothing, did you? You didn't know about the resurrection, did you?
As I said, that was poorly paraphrased. But in my case, absolutely true. I knew nothing of the Bible, I only knew Catholic dogma. Never fell for most of it, always felt it was a load of garbage. Now, I could clearly see what was stated in the Bible on very simple matters. Once I was convinced of a few basic things, the rest was easy; I just accepted even though some of it I disagreed with. However, I felt these "learned Bibl scholars" knew much more than I did. What a traumatic experience, then, to read how these "responsible, prayerful men with God's spriit" really came to their "understanding" of the Scripture.
It's sickening, really.
ISoCF is a MUST read.
Sorry for the lack of eloquence; this is the best I can do right now.
it took me over a month of reading every night before bed, but last night i finished reading crisis of conscience.
i was amazed by what i read.
the extent of disregard for peoples feelings and lack of human kindness to those who had given a major part of their lives to theocratic service, made me sick.
In Search of Christian Freedom is even more powerful, more devastating than CoC. I'm only skimming it, because it is just too painful to really read.
Rosemarie
for me, (at the time), being appointed at the age of 24 was my biggest happiness.....the worst thing was leaving my first congregation because certain people wanted me out.......were there any particular highs and lows that you will never forget about being a witness?
Minimus, I'm trying hard but I really can't come up with anything but the flowers. Oh, I was invited to a swim party once, and to dinner a few times.
posted by hope on 12-18-2002 01:43 pm: .
posted by hope on 12-18-2002 04:25 pm: .
posted by hope on 12-18-2002 04:48 pm: .
Cathy, Blondie....my heart goes out to you.
In my case, my daughters are shunning ME but not for JW reasons....it's a long story but I really can't take much more of it. Did I really raise such unforgiving people? Although I guess they just had enough of my emotional illness. Sad, because I'm starting to get better.
I miss them so much.
i wish my mother were alive. She had her faults, but she tried her best and she really loved us all very much. I know she would hold me and tell me that she loved me, even though my daughters no longer do.
Mother, I'm here and waiting....
Rosemarie
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august 04,2002 was the day that i became a member of this forum.i cannot begin to list the names of individuals and posts that have had an impact on my family.. i want to take this opportunity to express my thanks to all of you here for the love ,help and support that has been given on this forum.. thank you simon!.
blueblades
Great post, Blueblades.
I echo the sentiment.
Rosemarie