I'm even willing to bet that you aren't a serious witness. Witnesses don't have access to older Watchtowers, for obvious reasons. Anyone that was associated like I was for 40 years can attest to this simple fact, yet you quote Russell twice from the 19th century. Has You Know made a comeback??
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by Yizuman inseems that the page view out number the posters who actually reply to the thread.. my guess is that there's alot of active jws who are still active within' the so called "truth" are visiting this forum and reading all the threads.
i don't blame them for not wanting to reply for fear of being found out.. how many of you were still active when you found a forum like this one and lurked around for a long time?
how many of you left the organization as a result of reading this forum or other forums like it?.
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by Yizuman inseems that the page view out number the posters who actually reply to the thread.. my guess is that there's alot of active jws who are still active within' the so called "truth" are visiting this forum and reading all the threads.
i don't blame them for not wanting to reply for fear of being found out.. how many of you were still active when you found a forum like this one and lurked around for a long time?
how many of you left the organization as a result of reading this forum or other forums like it?.
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reubenfine
Jonadab,
took a vow which some of you have willingly broken and now morn the consequence(disfellowshipping) of your actions.
I for one am not disfellowshipped, although I'm sure there are many here that either have or haven't been disfellowshipped who don't believe that they have willingly broken their vows. There are very few people here in mourning. Most are overjoyed to be free from cult behavior. The problem is that the Governing Body betrayed us.
However, I think I know how to add. How would you have reacted in my case? (I posted earlier but you didn't respond). I was told I needed to lie and violate my conscience to be in good standing. Please add that up for me. I applied Jesus' counsel and demanded an apology, which didn't come. Elders all down the line goose-stepped in unison. How do you add that up? Please tell me what it adds up to. It's pretty easy, and I'm sure you can figure it out since I see you know what 1+1 equals. My good name was slandered to an entire body of elders without proof. What does that add up to?
I'm sure you doubt the facts, so I'll make you the same deal. Email me or respond here if you care to take my challenge, and if you can show me where I'm wrong I'll give you $1000. If you can't, you can give me $20 and write a letter to the society and tell them of their error and to apologize to me like any good Christian would. How do you like those odds? Looks like 50-1 to me. Try to get them in Vegas.
Of course, your conscience might keep you from gambling, which I could understand. Then maybe you'd do it out of love for me and what's right, huh? Maybe, but I doubt it. Not one elder cared, nor did Brooklyn, and I'm betting you don't either. I'm betting you will back the society in the face of facts. Put up or shut up!
Edited by - reubenfine on 24 December 2002 0:50:54
Edited by - reubenfine on 24 December 2002 0:51:36
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To all who read the board, a special wish
by ozziepost into fellow posters, friends and lurkers,
with thankful hearts.
we lift a prayer.
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reubenfine
I'm reporting you all. It's for your own good!
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Does anyone have the letter???????
by Mulan in.
has anyone seen a copy of the letter to the elders, about the upcoming visits on inactive ones?.
does anyone have this letter, and can you post it?
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reubenfine
I seem to recall that it was mentioned at an elder's workshop or whatever you call it. I'm not sure there was ever a letter.
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by Yizuman inseems that the page view out number the posters who actually reply to the thread.. my guess is that there's alot of active jws who are still active within' the so called "truth" are visiting this forum and reading all the threads.
i don't blame them for not wanting to reply for fear of being found out.. how many of you were still active when you found a forum like this one and lurked around for a long time?
how many of you left the organization as a result of reading this forum or other forums like it?.
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reubenfine
Jonadab,
Oh, nevermind.
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running scared - Elder sighted off the port bow!
by czarofmischief inthe repercussions of my argument with my mother on the phone the other week are starting to make themselves felt.
let me be clear: i've been disfellowshipped from the org for two years now.
i'm loving my freedom of thought.. so i was talking to my mom [still in the borg] and started expressing myself on various subjects on which i disagree, or at least see room for philosophical "wiggle room" with the society's viewpoints.
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reubenfine
Talk to him and let us know the rest of the story!
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Where is God?
by donkey inwhy does god allow this stuff?
according to your teachings, believers, just so he can stroke himself and show how man has failed.
in fact believers will read this stuff and shrug it off because in the future god will fix it it and it just proves why we need god..
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reubenfine
Jesus just left Chicago.........
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What was the last straw?
by freedom96 infor those who just up and left the wts, what was the one thing, if any, that made you think to yourself, allright, that is it, i am outa here!
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reubenfine
The total lack of love from the top down, then the elders desire to repeat whatever the borg said, right or wrong. It didn't matter if I was right or wrong, only that I was different. Plus they wanted me to violate my conscience. My conscience didn't matter.
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Pathetic Effort To Destroy Silentlambs.org
by onthego inrather than focus on ted jarasz of the watchtower's gov body being openly accused as a child molestor and the like, some fruitcakes falsely claimed bill bowen, (the exposer of the wt's pedophile coverup policy) attacked ray franz and just today hint that perhaps he sabotaged his own silentlambs.org website.
they also try to plant seeds of jealousy against bill bowen.
this is a clear effort to try to play bill bowen against franz (both of whom oppose watchtower tyranny) and to destroy silentlambs.
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reubenfine
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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The Memorial?
by Nickey ini'm a newbie here.
but not a newbie to being a jw.
i was raised as one.
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reubenfine
I think we all ought to get together and show up and partake, just to skew their numbers. Then get up and leave without answering questions.