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  Your views and ideas on forum areas and organization?

  by Simon in

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  this may come as a shock to some people, but the current forum structure was kind of thrown together without much real thought and then evolved a bit over time.

  there are a few things that particularly grate on me and areas where i don't think the subjects work particularly well.

  'friends' is a bit vague and becomes a dumping ground, news & world events vs politics & current affairs is hard to decide sometimes, child abuse is a scandal but isn't contained withing 'scandals & coverups' etc.... with a new forum platform imminent, it's a good time to solicit ideas to improve things.

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  Simon,

  Thank you for all your hard work. Could there be an easier way to upload photos/images? I still get photobucket wrong every time!

  gorgia
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  Who left or got stumbled over the 1995 generation thing?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  or the 2000's generation thing?.

  how did you feel?

  how did it help you wake up?

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  This thread is WONDERFUL.

  gorgia
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  Literature Display Stands... Turning JWs into stationary targets...

  by Calebs Airplane in

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  2. scandals

  because of the membership retention issues that seem to continue getting worse, the watchtower corporation appears to be running out of ideas.

  in the past, when the numbers have dropped (membership, fs hours, rag placements, money, etc.

  ) they always came up with a "hook" that would give them a boost until the next drop in numbers (i.e.

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  There were JWs at my local markets the other week sitting behind a stall full of WTS literature. I tried to upload a photo of them (faces cut out) but I can't do it.

  They both looked miserable & didn't smile for the camera.

  gorgia
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  DID YOU KNOW the latest Brooklyn sell-offs will take total Watchtower earnings to $804 MILLION since 2004?

  by cedars in

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  2. friends

  hi folks.

  i apologize if this is old news to some, but it's news to me.. i stumbled on a comprehensive list of all the sold properties on wikipedia on this link... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/watch_tower_bible_and_tract_society_of_pennsylvania#brooklyn_property_sales.

  it's just a mind-boggling amount of money, and useful information to have handy when talking to witness relatives.

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  Cedars,

  Thanks for sharing this information. We know the WTS insist they need r&f donations plus proceeds from sold WTS properties for a more effective spreading of an urgent JW message until the big A - the more money they make, the more worldly people they can save in the short time left. So their effective propaganda expounds.

  I often wonder, how long exactly is the amount of preaching time the GB profess all their millions are making provision for - before they see it as unseemly, or potentially unseemly, to the r&f and the rest of the world? One year? Five? Twenty?

  When I was a child my father started out his career selling life insurance. He got a bad reputation among his fellow-Witnesses for not having enough faith that the end was nigh. How could he dare sell something as future-orientated as life insurance?!! It wasn't disfellowshippable, (I think I just created a word!) but his career choice was certainly a scandal.

  I and many, many others couldn't finish high school or go to college due to the end of the world being a hair's breadth away, thousands of couples forwent having children, millions obeyed GB teachings not to invest for their retirement years - we all know the list goes on. And yet - here we have, (not forgetting the hedge funds ofcourse) - yet more evidence of the GB's disbelief in their own restrictive rhetoric regarding time left on this planet as we know it and how to view finances.

  There's only so many millions one can spend saving a morass of doomed people in a limited amount of time. The remaining millions are needed for reasons entirely other than a short-term world-wide ministry. It's all so blatantly rapacious and hypocritical.

  gorgia

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  New Job

  by LouBelle in

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  2. friends

  hey everyone.

  so i left the old company behind, the one that wasn't paying me.

  they still owe me a little bit of money but have them on record and signed documentation that i'll receive payment by the close of this month.

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  LouBelle,

  Well done! I wish you all the best in your new job. From your posts I'd say you have the charming personality required for cold-calling - go get 'em!

  gorgia
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  What I've been wanting to say about doubt and faith

  by jgnat in

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  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ordqfh0byw.

  it's those who demand certainty who make a mockery of faith.. this talk will stick with you..

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  Thanks jgnat for the video. I don't want to ever not feel doubt; if I ever felt convinced I knew the secrets of the universe I'm sure it'd be from a padded room.

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  New member!!

  by Viva la Vida in

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  this is my first post even thou ive been lurking for some time.

  i was raised in as a jw, and im still in because of my family.

  since waking up i found meetings, assemblies and fs stressing and thought writing in here might be therapeutic.

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  Welcome Viva!

  gorgia
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  What exactly was going on after Jesus was put to death and no longer around?

  by Terry in

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  2. beliefs

  the jesus believers were meeting in people's homes.

  members of that community would take turns using private homes to gather.

  thus, they went house to house.. these footstep tracers of jesus (they called themselves akolouthontes "followers" or some called themselves mathetai or "learners.

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  Thanks Terry, great read.

  gorgia
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  One years has passed since getting the boot. My story, past, present, and beyond.

  by BreathoftheIndianNose in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so as of today, it is my one year anniversary of being out.

  i simplified it so that most people who know nothing of jws can understand.

  in addition to writing this as self therapy, i plan to use it to educate others in my life who need to know more about where i come from.

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  Welcome BreathoftheIndianNose!

  gorgia
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  I still believe in the paradise earth.

  by paul from cleveland in

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  2. friends

  i still believe it's coming.

  i think if god is real, it has to come.

  it only makes sense.

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  You mentioned 'Adam and Eve' - do you believe these were actual people? It seems there is still much for you to explore, learn & read. It's a never-ending process, this deconstructing and building back up again, after leaving the JW's.

  However your beliefs end up afterward, at least you will have given it your best efforts to come to your own understanding, rather than have GB brainwashing residue still nagging at your brain. There are many people on JWNet that have gone on to learn and thankfully share what they have discovered about history, theology, philosophy. All the knowledge the GB didn't want you to know.

  Keep seeking!

  gorgia