Posts by gorgia2

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Major flub in Slavery Watchtower Study Article

by scotoma in

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do you ever wonder if the watchtower writers actually read the context of their key scriptures?.

they seem intent on perpetuating the idea that the jewish law was divine - perfect.. paragraph two asks the question "what would prompt an israelite slave to forfeit his opportunity.

to be free?".

gorgia2

Yes, the WTS have managed to put their completely-out-of-context interpretation to good use, haven't they?

gorgia

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I regret my disassociation.

by Zoos in

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if i knew then what i know now, i might never have disassociated myself.

i realize all i can do is speculate on what could have been.

however, when i consider the number of people i might have been able to help by dropping little thought-provoking seeds, i really regret having jumped to the decision to disassociate so quickly.. ive read the accounts of several people on this forum telling of how stressful it is to be in the position that i just described above.

gorgia2

Zoos - please remember your freedom is worth more than 'inside info.' I am so pleased you are out.

Designs - great post.

Crazyguy - I wish you all the best.

gorgia

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Conversation-stopper STOPPERS needed!

by DS211 in

i have to get active.

my wife told me we have hospitality this weekend and i know the jw slingshot mechanism will engage after attendance.

so i have to get ready.

gorgia2

I thought your description - even though you are understandably frustrated - was very sweet; you are clearly inlove with your wife.

I got all the above dead-ends to questions from my mother; it drove me mad. But when she was ready, she started asking me questions, instead of the other way round. Hang in there.

gorgia

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Billy and anyone else taking final exams, this is for you

by nonjwspouse in

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my son wrote this about his recent exam experience.

i thought you'd appreciate.

exam: 10:15 am - 12:15 pm.

gorgia2

I just finished mine. I could picture your son sprinting across campus! I hope he did really well.

gorgia

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I am having a Bad Day today

by KateWild in

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stressed again with my circumstances.

very tiresome, but i need to be positive.

are you an optimistic soul?

gorgia2

Hi Kate,

I hope your day is getting better.

The beginning of your day reminded me of this quote:

'The wine of life keeps oozing drop by drop, / The leaves of life keep falling one by one.' (E.Fitzgerald)

gorgia

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Never to be forgotten statements by Christians!

by fulltimestudent in

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" to assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneus as to claim that jesus was not born of a virgin.".

cardinal bellarmine, 1633.

gorgia2

Thanks everyone for including the WTS gems. I shall save this page & take it with me to my mother's at Xmas - we'll have a jolly pagan laugh together over some eggnog.

gorgia

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Have you put on the "New Personality" ?

by Phizzy in

when we were in we were often read that scripture and told we should work hard at putting on the new personality, which in wt speak meant their cult personality, nothing like the person of christ.. since leaving it has become necessary for us to make deep internal changes, to our worldview, to our emotions, and to our actions.. we have had to change from being controlled in all these areas by the wt cult, to forming our own new personality.. for born-ins like me this is really quite a task, we do not have a "pre-cult" personality to "recover".

but even for converts, there is stilll this work to do, before you joined you may have been racist, homophobic, or perhaps a thief, or immoral in some other way, surely you do not wish to "recover" those aspects of your original personality ?so you too have to "put on" a new one.. how are we all doing with this ?

i know that for me i feel it is still a work in progress, i need to work on certain things that are the result of my being in the jw/wt scam for all those decades, and some things that are a part of my natural personality which are not desireable as traits, laziness for example, and i am the arch-procrastinator, not good.. how do you guys feel you are doing since leaving ?.

gorgia2

Aggghhhh! That flippin' New Personality - I never got it right! As a teenager, I'm sure I must've heard that command every Sunday; it was like a stone in my shoe. How exactly was I supposed to 'put it on'?

My parents were desperate for me to get it right but I suspected it was a rather phoney idea - not to mention the fact that those JDubs' New Personalities I observed weren't at all like the desired New Personality traits spouted from their bibles.

gorgia

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Interview with an Apostate: Julia Orwell

by Julia Orwell in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i have a husband and we've been married nearly three years.

no kids.. were you a born in or a convert?.

convert- converted from atheism in my teens.. are your parents / family jws?.

gorgia2

Julia,

You made me smile when I read you've started selling your artwork - this woud not have been encouraged had you stayed in the cult. I wish you much artistic success!

gorgia

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Interview with an apostate: Clarity

by clarity in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. just me basically, kids & dogs left a long time ago.. worked for many years & more or less retired.. might get another dog when i don't mind being tied down again!.

were you a born in or a convert?.

convert.

gorgia2

clarity,

Your interview is so full of hope & promise for life here & now. Very inspirational. Thank you for sharing.

gorgia

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Interview with an apostate: Clarity

by clarity in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. just me basically, kids & dogs left a long time ago.. worked for many years & more or less retired.. might get another dog when i don't mind being tied down again!.

were you a born in or a convert?.

convert.

gorgia2

clarity,

Your interview is so full of hope & promise for life here & now. Very inspirational. Thank you for sharing.

gorgia