Posts by ClassAvenger

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Is the Koran an Inspired Book?

by Happythoughts in

from what i gather--in my opinion--here i go again the book is very negative; it's obsessed with the punishment in the hereafter for the "unbelievers" (an oft cited word in the book) and speaks of them being : chastised in the fire.

" i lost count of the number of times this phrase is used.

the book does not present a loving god--but a vindictive harsh one, more concerned with punishment than life and forgiveness.

ClassAvenger

LOL! Inspired! I would be a million times more willing to believe in the Book of the Mormon.

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If you wanted to be cremated after your death...

by FancyPants in

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but could foresee the future and saw that your body was thrown into the woods to rot, would it bother you?

ClassAvenger

If I'm dead, I wouldn't care one bit.

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Need help...I am so confused....(this will probably be rambling)

by stephaniesays in

i started going to church.

i am going to a baptist church just because they have a great youth program at this one, and my daughter (12) has really gotten into it, which i think is a positive thing.

i have never really taught her anything about religion because i never knew what i believed, and i am having to confront now, what exactly it is that i do believe.

ClassAvenger

Stephanie,

I also go to a Baptist church, although I don't really know what you are going through because I have not experienced it. If you have any questions on Baptist doctrines, you can ask alleymom here in the forum, or me. I do not know much but I'll do my best to answer any question you might have. In my opinion, I don't think your pastor will feel annoyed by all your questions, he will most likely be happy to help you answer all of them. Just focus on one subject and ask as many questions as you have on it so there will be no doubt left in you, and so your faith will not be based on something you are 'supposed' to believe just because you are part of that religion. We do not believe that you have to be in our religion to go to heaven. All Christian denominations agree that it is not the religion, but Christ that saves us. If you cannot accept some of the doctrines taught and it seems like they are fake and not biblically based, just reject them. I'm pretty sure the pastor won't mind, although he will try to convince you. It is not like in the Watchtower, where if you reject a certain doctrine you are out. I've seen some people who do this around in the forum, like LittleToe. He attends a Presbyterian church, but considers himself an Unorthdox Christian because he accepts only doctrines he holds to be true. Don't get confused though, just because you don't like a doctrine may you reject it. Lol. About heaven, this belief is based in several passages and a lot in Revelations. One of the verses is Luke 23:43, "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. The Watchtower has it: " And he said to him: 'Truly I tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise.'" They insert that comma after today, even though in the Greek scriptures there are no commas. From what i know, in every other part of the bible there is a comma after "thee" in the phrase, "Verily I say unto thee". I have a Bible in Spanish which reads it without comma, "Verily I say unto thee that today shalt thou be with me in paradise". Well, I hope this information is of some help. Keep in touch. - CA

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If you knew there was no reward for serving God would you still serve him?

by Happythoughts in

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do you think most people would serve him?

ClassAvenger

If I knew there was no reward for serving God, I am sure I would still serve him.

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Watchtower CD

by ClassAvenger in

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i recently got hold of a wt cd called watchtower 2001 library (english).

anyone know of anything interesting found in the cd?

ClassAvenger

I recently got hold of a WT CD called Watchtower 2001 Library (English). Anyone know of anything interesting found in the CD?

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Losing Salvation

by ClassAvenger in

i witnessed to a jw and he accepted that salvation comes through faith only, and the works come later showing that you are a saved person.

but he continiously argues that salvation can be lost according to our behavior.

what do you all say about this?

ClassAvenger

I think that for a JW to accept that salvation is through faith is a big improvement. They would fight it to the death that it was through works and faith, but after they researched they both came to the conclusion that it was through faith only. I think I should move on now that they have accepted this, but I don't know to what to move on. Any ideas?

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Losing my Religion

by yxl1 in

ive always considered myself a christian.

even before i was roped into the world of dubs at the age of 7, i attended a baptist church.

it never entered my mind that the bible wasnt gods word and that jesus was or wasnt the son of god.

ClassAvenger

Oh life, is bigger, is bigger than you and you are not me,
The lengths that I will go to, the distance in your eyes,
Oh no I've said too much, I set it up.

Thats me in the corner, that's me in the spotlight,
Losing my religion, trying to keep up with you,
And I don't know if I can do it, oh no I've said too much,
I set it up.

- REM, Losing My Religion.

Lol, pretty good song. Well, I don't know what to say. I've grown up a Christian and haven't had to face the tests you guys have needed to go through. In my opinion, these are 'tests' from God. I've always wondered how some people believe there is a God yet do not believe in the Bible. I mean, what makes up your book of rules, your conscience? Well, God bless you and I hope he gets you through this episode of your life.

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"The meek shall inherit the earth"

by plmkrzy in

the meek shall inherit the earth.

what exactly do you think this means??

i was thinking about that line in the bible.

ClassAvenger

I've read some books from David Reed and he explains this verse pretty good. The psalm is not predicting a future time when God will remove the wicked and give control to the just. The psalmist was telling the Israelites what they could expect to see in their own lifetime, that good men would prosper under God's blessing. For example, in verses 25 and 37 he is talking in present times and events happening in his own lifetime. The psalm contains no indication that it should be taken as a prophetic statement about the end of the world, but of the immediate benefits of good conduct. -(Paraphrased from Jehovah Witnesses Answered Verse by Verse). Thanks to alleymom for the information.

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Losing Salvation

by ClassAvenger in

i witnessed to a jw and he accepted that salvation comes through faith only, and the works come later showing that you are a saved person.

but he continiously argues that salvation can be lost according to our behavior.

what do you all say about this?

ClassAvenger

I witnessed to a JW and he accepted that salvation comes through faith only, and the works come later showing that you are a saved person. But he continiously argues that salvation can be lost according to our behavior. What do you all say about this?

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The Watchtower Society and Faith versus Works

by UnDisfellowshipped in

"--isa 5:23; jas 2:8, 9.

(jas 2:14-26) here james was not contradicting paul by saying that one could earn salvation by works.

the watchtower, may 1, 1976 issue, page 276:.

ClassAvenger

If he is really born again he will fear God and feel sorry for what he did, but the flesh is weak and will most likely sin but not as before. I guess it just depends on how much you put yourself in the hands of the Lord so he can change you. I've seen people dramatically change in my church after they have been born-again, while others of course, keep acting like they used to. The real christians, and the ones that say they are christians.