Posts by ClassAvenger

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Making A Big Deal Out Of Nothing.

by shamus in

a poster recently brought up an interesting topic... about how the wtbts always makes big deals out of nothing.. case in point?.

how jesus was crusified on a tree, rather than a cross.

i mean, does it really matter that much?

ClassAvenger

Maybe this isn't a big deal over something, but one thing that they argue with me is that they are upstanding people and there are no robbers, pedophiliacs, or criminals found in the religion and actually believe it. Supposedly he says that they are known worldwide for their upstanding behavior. Yeah right! Most of the Jehovah Witnesses in my school act as bad as people that are atheists or people who just have a religion for sanity's sake. It's really funny sometimes, although somewhat sad. Theres not a sense of humility in the sect.

Oh yeah, and also that Jesus died on the cross. It doesn't really matter, but can't they see that the whole freaking world knows that Jesus died on a cross, except them. I mean, its written on history books, dictionaries, all over the place yet they say, "Oh, we are the true religion because we know that he died on a stake". Why doesn't God feel sorry for them and open their eyes?

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Looking for copy of on line nwt

by jokersloose in

im looking for a web page that i can view the nwt bible.

do searches for words, phrases etc.

if anyone knows of one would you please let me know the link.

ClassAvenger

Hey does anyone know if those CDs that contain really old WT publications are available for download in a website?

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hidden messages in the bible

by invictus in

have you heard of chuck missler?

i just got his booklet " hidden treasures in the bible", and this is an interesting statement:.

( comparing names in hebrew and their english meaning).

ClassAvenger

Lol, all this stuff is as dumb as trying to find Bible codes with computers in the original Hebrew scriptures which reveal future events. What was that show called? I don't remember if I saw it in the History Channel or in the Discovery. I prefer to watch Mail Call anyways.

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God Turned His Face Away

by ClassAvenger in

i've been reading the angels: god's secret agents by billy graham and i found something interesting about when jesus died on the cross.

he says that when jesus died, he was abandoned by men, angels, and by the father who's eyes are too pure to look at sin, and in the expiatory agony of the son he turned his face away.

that's why jesus said: my god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me?

ClassAvenger

I've also heard another statement, that the Holy Spirit and the Father suffered along with the Son because they saw his sufferement on the Cross. If they saw this, how could God turn his face away as so not to look at sin? Just a thought. But then God sees every sin that we commit. I am not trying to be smart here, I'm just trying to learn. I need to be corrected, can anyone explain this to me?

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Existing in the nature of God

by ClassAvenger in

i preached to a jw and they used the following verse against me:

phi 2:6

"who existing in the nature of god, did not consider being equal to god something to be held onto," he said that this was one of the texts that disproved the trinity because it does not state that he was god, but that he existed in the nature of god: divine.

ClassAvenger

Thanks for your answer myxomatosis, it's pretty cool how to lead them in their own Bible to a contradiction. But, it still remains unanswered what Philippians 2:6 means. Well, I am going to post several translations:

(Analytical Literal Translation) who existing in the nature of God, did not consider being equal to God something to be held onto,

(American Standard Version) who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped,

(Bible in Basic English) To whom, though himself in the form of God, it did not seem that to take for oneself was to be like God;

(Contemporary English Version) Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God.

(King James Version) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Im reading a book called Albert Barne's Notes on the Bible, and he seems to give a pretty good explanation yet it is kind of long and I haven't finished reading the section. I'll post his comments on this verse when I finish reading it. Meanwhile, POST SOMETHING GUYS!!! Lol.

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aborting all the baby girls

by plmkrzy in

60 minutes tonight, special on aborting all the baby girls in india, it has become an epidemic so severe they have placed a ban on tests that predetermine the childs sex.

now women are going underground to find out the sex of the child and abort it if it is a female.

this has caused an imbalance in the population and men are having a difficult time finding wives.

ClassAvenger

It's mostly like what happens in China. A male child is able to bring honor to the family name while a female child is only grown up to be wed with someone. Consequently, everyone wants a male child. When a child is found to be a female, most of the time they are thrown into a well or killed in some way or another. This is causing a imbalanced male to female ratio and I think that within 10 or 20 years women are going to be scarce in China. I am just summarizing something I read a while ago, the facts may be wrong, but the idea is the same.

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Existing in the nature of God

by ClassAvenger in

i preached to a jw and they used the following verse against me:

phi 2:6

"who existing in the nature of god, did not consider being equal to god something to be held onto," he said that this was one of the texts that disproved the trinity because it does not state that he was god, but that he existed in the nature of god: divine.

ClassAvenger

I preached to a JW and they used the following verse against me: Phi 2:6 "who existing in the nature of God, did not consider being equal to God something to be held onto," He said that this was one of the texts that disproved the Trinity because it does not state that he was God, but that he existed in the nature of God: divine. I was like "???".

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JW marriages: happy/unhappy

by starfish422 in

i've been wondering how many jws have gotten married too quickly, without knowing their prospective "mate" well enough, and have ended up really unhappy.

it always seemed to me that a couple would be dating for, like, 6 or 9 months and get engaged, have a 9 month engagement and be married; often because they bought the "no sex before marriage" garbage.

i'm sure that there *are* happy jw marriages out there; and certainly being unhappily married isn't the sole property of jws.

ClassAvenger

Interesting points JT,

Like I said, the happy JW marriage that I talked about is happy because they do not abide by the Watchtower rules. They don't frequent that much on their field service, Bible study, and all that stuff. The husband has a great job (mainly because he was not a Witness, and I don't think he is fully one yet, and wanted to be something in life). The couple understands each other pretty well and they don't feel pressure from going to the meetings because I think if they just decide not to go sometimes. Lol.

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God Turned His Face Away

by ClassAvenger in

i've been reading the angels: god's secret agents by billy graham and i found something interesting about when jesus died on the cross.

he says that when jesus died, he was abandoned by men, angels, and by the father who's eyes are too pure to look at sin, and in the expiatory agony of the son he turned his face away.

that's why jesus said: my god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me?

ClassAvenger

Well, I mean, this guy's got a Doctorates degree in theology, although the statement did seem kind of weird. I mean, how could God turn his face away from someone?

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God Turned His Face Away

by ClassAvenger in

i've been reading the angels: god's secret agents by billy graham and i found something interesting about when jesus died on the cross.

he says that when jesus died, he was abandoned by men, angels, and by the father who's eyes are too pure to look at sin, and in the expiatory agony of the son he turned his face away.

that's why jesus said: my god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me?

ClassAvenger

I've been reading The Angels: God's Secret Agents by Billy Graham and I found something interesting about when Jesus died on the cross. He says that when Jesus died, he was abandoned by men, angels, and by the Father who's eyes are too pure to look at sin, and in the expiatory agony of the Son He turned his face away. That's why Jesus said: My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 27:46. What do you all think of this comment from Graham? Just wanted to know you guy's opinion.