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  HERE'S A BOMBSHELL ABOUT THE 144,000 DOCTRINE......

  by Mary in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just when you think you've heard it all............in my research for my project, i was doing some digging around on the subject of the 144,000 and came across something in the wts's literature that absolutely stunned me and, being the generous soul that i am , wanted to pass it on to you to get your thoughts on this.. .

  we all know that the society teaches that the 144,000 mentioned in revelation is speaking of "spiritual israel" and not 'fleshly israel' or even other christians in general right?

  there are countless quotes throughout the literature that we are all familiar with that specifically state this, but to drive home a point, here are a few:.

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  I personally have removed the word "should" from my vocabulary.

  Anyone using (and overusing) the word might want to ask himself, "Whose rule is that? Where did that belief come from? A parent? A teacher? Some other authority?" Likely they are reciting/repeating some rule/belief by rote. Where would free will take them on this issue? I figure the use of the word "should" to introduce almost every paragraph could constitute "overuse."

  He might want to ask himself, "What is my personal belief, rather than what someone told me to believe."

  He might find that under all the busy-ness in his mind, there could be some entirely different concept aside what has been rehearsed and repeated up till now. Certainly the JWs rehearse and repeat in their practice sessions during the mid-week meetings.

  Just a thought to encourage an individual's growth. Might help to expand the consciousness just a bit.

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  Join Me In Welcoming SadFox

  by snowbird in

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  2. experiences

  come on, now.. she needs our tlc.. sylvia.

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  Welcome SadFox! Stick around and you won't be sad long.

  Hugs

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  Hi

  by Yikes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  new member here......yikes is my name... is there a "introduce yourself" thread area?

  this site seems overly complicated..... .

  btw...ex-jehovah.....thank effing god......

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  Welcome, Yikes! Cool name.

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  My First Post!!!

  by IreallydidwalkoutofaKH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after a year of reading all of your experiences and expressions i decided it was time for me to start sharing some of mine.

  hopefully they can benefit others, like many of yours have benefited me!

  being raised in the wtbts, the jehovahs witness docrine and culture really was the prism from which all of my experiences and understanding of life originated.

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  Welcome to the forum!

  Cabbage patch dolls?

  ESTEE
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  3 REASONS TO BE A JW

  by thebigdebate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a theory on why people become jw's.

  there are 3 different reasons:.

  1: you were born into a family of jw's.

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  Me? Born in.

  DF'd out. Thank you elders for df'ing me. They gave me the kick I needed to get on with the rest of my life.

  ESTEE
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  Daddy's 10 Rules for dating my Daughter...

  by zeroday in

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  2. friends

  rule one:.

  if you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a. package, because you're sure not picking anything up.. .

  rule ten:.

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  LOL!!!

  Here's an application I saw several years ago.

  ESTEE

  APPLICATION TO DATE MY DAUGHTER

  NAME:_____________________ AGE:________ PHONE:______________________

  ADDRESS____________________ CITY:__________ PROV:____ ZIP:__________

  CHURCH:____________________ NUMBER OF TIMES ATTENDED LAST YEAR:_____

  1. Do you drive ( ) Sports car ( ) Van ( ) Station Wagon ( ) M/C
  (If you checked any of the above, put the pen down, walk slowly to the door and start running as fast as you can)

  2. Please complete this sentence: THE PLACE FOR A WOMAN IS

  __________________________________________________________.

  3. In 50 words or less, describe what "NO" means to you:

  __________________________________________________________.

  4. In 50 words or less, describe what "LATE" means to you:

  __________________________________________________________.

  5. Describe where you would least like to be shot:

  __________________________________________________________.

  6. Have you ever had your testicles: ( ) REMOVED ( ) CRUSHED
  ( ) PLACED IN A PAIR OF VICE GRIPS ( ) SHREDDED

  7. Which is the last bone you would like to have broken?

  __________________________________________________________.

  8. Have you ever thought how you would do things with no fingers?

  ( ) Yes ( ) No

  9. What do you want to be "IF" you grow up? ____________.

  10. Have you ever thought about what it would be like to be:
  ( ) QUADRAPELEGIC ( ) PERMANENTLY SCARRED ( ) CRIPPLED FOR LIFE

  11. Have you ever seen what a hunting bullet can do at long range?
  ( ) Yes ( ) No

  12. Do you know the effective range of a 30.06?
  ( ) Yes ( ) No

  NEXT OF KIN: _____________________________________

  FUNERAL HOME (OR BODY REMOVAL SERVICE) OF CHOICE: __________________

  WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE AN ORGAN DONER? ( ) Yes ( ) No

  PARENTAL USE ONLY:
  LOOKS LIKE ( ) MEL GIBSON ( ) DENNIS RODMAN ( ) PEE WEE HERMAN
  STATUS ( ) ACCEPTED ( ) REJECTED ( ) ARRESTED ( ) TERMINATED
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  Why do many JWs neglect their health conditions?

  by navytownroger in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my former bible study conductor has heart problems and very high blood pressure, but doesn't seem concerned about it.

  another witness i knew had heart problems but never went to doctors, & eventually dropped dead suddenly.

  given that cigarette smoking is a disfellowshipping offense, why aren't jws reprimanded when they otherwise neglect & jeopardize their health?

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  I agree with OUTLAW.

  "Millions now living will never die," . . . isn't that what they believe?

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  Hi everyone! im also a newbie here.

  by dhand in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, thought it was time to say hi after nearly a year lurking on this site!!

  abit about me... i was born into the jw's and have been baptised for about 15yrs and was appointed as an ms about a year ago.

  i have been a die hard jw for the last few years, but because of the arrogant and unloving attitude of certain 'spirit appointed' men within the cong and circuit i began to wounder if what i had really was 'the truth' and caused me to do some digging on some of the fundamental teachings.

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  Welcome to JWD, dhand!

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  Newbie here

  by CAL69 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm new to this site and just thought i'd share a little bit about myself.. i was born and raised in los angeles, grew up as a jw and left the org when i was 22. i wasn't df'd or da'd, i just faded (very quickly).

  i left the org 10 years ago and never looked back....or so i thought.

  it wasn't until recently that i realized how much of a hold they still had on me.

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  Welcome to JWD!

  ESTEE
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  Should I go to the elders about the affair?

  by weeone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am a sister that kind of "fell away" from the organization.

  i felt that i wasn't accepted by my brothers and sisters (long, long story).

  whatever i did i wasn't "perfect" enough.

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  No guilt . . . no judgment . . . no moralizing.

  Just a big welcome to the forum!

  ESTEE