Thanks Blondie...........not sure what happened there
cheers, Bliss
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have a look...........big hit in australia.. .
http://http://www.boblarson.org/australian_tv_/australian_tv_.html.
Thanks Blondie...........not sure what happened there
cheers, Bliss
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have a look...........big hit in australia.. .
http://http://www.boblarson.org/australian_tv_/australian_tv_.html.
have a look...........big hit in Australia.
http://http://www.boblarson.org/AUSTRALIAN_TV_/australian_tv_.html
four commit suicide as child porn probe widens .
by sharon mathieson .
sunday, 3 october 2004 .
Not sure what happened with my post.......mmmmmmmm!
Anyhow, the good news is that obviously there has been alot of work done to get these creeps and it's just the tip of the ice-berg. I hope that 'whoever' they are, they find them all.
Pedos............you can run but seems you can't hide, forever! No matter WHO or WHAT you are!
Hooray and cheers, Bliss
four commit suicide as child porn probe widens .
by sharon mathieson .
sunday, 3 october 2004 .
Four commit suicide as child porn probe widens
By Sharon Mathieson
Sunday, 3 October 2004
FOUR men committed suicide after being investigated for possessing child pornography, the Government confirmed yesterday, as it warned more arrests would be made this week.
A former Queensland policeman, a Victorian prison officer, another Victorian man and a West Australian electrician were all found dead after being interviewed by police over child pornography allegations.
Justice Minister Chris Ellison described the deaths as regrettable but vowed they would not deter Australia's biggest crackdown on child porn.
"It's regrettable that four people, the subject of charges, have taken their own lives," he said.
"But this investigation is an extremely important one in dealing with criminal activity which deals with the violation of innocent children.
"This will not deter, in any way, the investigation."
Senator Ellison said as many as 700 people were being investigated by police in relation to child pornography allegations and predicted up to 500 could be charged.
More arrests would be made this week and anyone convicted of on-line child pornography faced up to 10 years' jail, while someone found stalking a child on the Internet could be jailed for up to 15 years.
"This is an extensive operation which will be ongoing for some time, even some months," Senator Ellison said. "It is expected that there could be some further arrests this week in relation to this operation."
More than 200 people have already been charged after raids on users of Internet child porn web sites in the former Soviet republic of Belarus.
Queensland Police confirmed an officer committed suicide on September3, during the first phase of Operation Auxin, the name given to the nation-wide crackdown.
Victorian police said two men had been found dead after being interviewed about child pornography, one in relation to the nation-wide operation and another over a separate investigation.
Police said they were not treating the deaths, which would be investigated by the coroner, as suspicious.
"Victoria Police can confirm that two men have died after being the subject of separate police inquiries," a police spokeswoman said.
"Neither man had been formally charged with any offences." A spokesman for the Correctional Services Commissioner confirmed one of the dead men was a prison officer at the Fulham Correctional Centre, near Sale, in the state's east.
He was found dead in his car at nearby Stratford on Friday.
The body of a Melbourne man was reportedly found near Heyfield, 30km from Stratford.
West Australian electrician Kim Della-Vedova, 46, of Australind in the state's south-west, was found dead at his house on Friday.
His body was discovered by a friend after he failed to appear at the Bunbury Court of Petty Sessions on three charges of possessing child pornography.
"I can understand the pressure that these individuals are under but the victims that we're dealing with here are innocent children and this is a very serious matter," Senator Ellison said.
"There will be further arrests and of course those who are convicted could face periods of imprisonment."
news from some lame-ass site called jehovah's witness world news......
witness escapes terrorist school bombing
dear friends:.
BONEZZ..................is there any way i can find out who the aussie dubs from perth that died are????????
Cheers, Bliss
some of the ways i was love-bombed were,sisters fussing over the kidsbrothers helping me move housetaking the kids at meetings and helping them look through the biblebeing invited to gatheringsalways having people talking to me after the meetingssisters dropping in through the day for visits (didn't know they counted time until i was baptized)being given thingsgetting soooooooo much attention, especially when the co visitedsisters offering to come to court with me (re.
divorce)having the co invited on my study wwwwooooo hhhoooooo.
all the above came to an abrupt end when i had the baby, lost weight and got baptized.. so how were you love bombed?.
When I started to attend meetings I was a pregnant single mum with 2 little kids by my side.
Some of the ways I was love-bombed were,
All the above came to an abrupt end when I had the baby, lost weight and got baptized.
So how were you love bombed?
Cheers, Bliss
have you ever been called before one?
were you ever on one?
what happened???
While studying with the dubs the whole concept of df'ing was alien to me. There were some at the meetings sitting at the back and not being spoken too. It was made very clear to me early in the piece that because they had sinned and been rebellious, I was to shun them. This concerned me a great deal and asked how someone could be ignored. "It is to keep the congregation clean" I was led to believe that the only reason someone could get df'ed was not for the actual sin, but rather for their attitude toward the sin.
Well, that sounded harsh but seeing as though people get baptized with full knowledge of consequences of actions, I felt ok with the whole deal. I mean, everybody is imperfect, we all fall short, jesus died for ALL of us, so when I sin it will be my attitude toward repentance that will determine if I get df'ed or not!
BS!!!!!!!!!!!!! When I ended up before a JC I realised it had NOTHING to do with god or holy spirit. I imagine the Spanish inquisition or the Nazi's interogation being the same. I felt violated, raped..........and I know how that feels. I felt in danger and abused by the 3 men who claimed to be my brothers that loved me.
If I had done something the dubs claim to be a df'ing offense I could have accepted what was done to me. But the fact is that in my case the whole JC proceedings were soley for the purpose to silence and discredit me.
A year after my child was sexually abused and the pedophile was still lurking around the hall, playing with kids, the elders not doing enough to ensure childrens' safety, I mentioned to some of the mothers to watch their children around bro. XXXX. That really p#ssed the elders and particularly the pedo's brother off. Bringing shame on the family had to be dealt with more seriously than the pedo abusing my child.
The only 2 elders that knew about the incident decided they needed to find something to pin on me so as to be able to keep me away from the congo for at least 1 year. So they started investigating me by ringing around all my friends, asking if I had said anything about the pedo's brother that could be classified 'slanderous'. They rang many sisters and got no evidence for a case..............until one of the elder's daughter, while having a coffee with me (just me and her ALONE) entrapped me into talking about the pedo's family. Of course I never said anything slanderous about the pedo's brother that I was accused of having said, the sister had a twisted, filthy mind and it was what she believed herself that was presented as something I said. She rang her elder dad and now they had 1 witness. Then they rang around again and found another sister (friend of elder's daughter) who minced my words from a conversation we had a year before. Again it was a conversation had between me and her, no other witnesses. She said I had suggested that the pedo's brother and family were sick, therefore implying sexual misconduct in the family. Now they had 2 witnesses!!!!!!!
The 2 elders organized another elder for the jc. The most pathetic, weak, yes man you can imagine. They had made their minds up a year earlier to silence me, it was just a matter of getting the ingredients together, and they had them! They had me in the back room for 4 hours, wanting me to admit that I had implied that the pedo's brother had done to him what the pedo did to my kid. I was never going to admit to saying something I didn't say. So then I was in a lose-lose situation and they knew it. They couldn't decide on the night what to do with me so I had to go back 2 nights later. It was then they told me I was going to be df'ed for......1 lying (not confessing to what I had said)......2 slander (for supposedly implying something that was implied by the sisters not me) .....3 loose conduct (for not keeping my mouth shut about the abuse and warning other mothers after being told by the elders to keep quiet)
It took 3 attempts to get reinstated, on one occassion an elder told me 'jehovah didn't want me back yet'.......and like the prodigal son I now had to do the hard yard up the path, through the gate, wondering if my father was going to accept me back!!!!!!!!! SICK.
When I got reinstated the whole congregation clapped, except the pedo and his family. Everyone knew, especially the witnesses, that it was all set up and corrupt. They were relieved that they didn't need to lose sleep at stumbling me out of the 'truth'. Their consciences were clean.
Years later one of the witnesses told me how bad she felt for her role in my df'ing. She said how they gruelled her for hours, until she said something that was enough for them to get me on. She said how one of the elders had been to see her and hubby because he felt so bad for what had been done to me. He expressed how I should no have been treated like I was and that the other elder was bad. Needless to say that particular elder was removed for his remorse and to this day, can't suck up to me enough.
Corrupt, evil, abusive, unjust, unloving, unkind, soul destroying and particulary.........UNSCRIPTURAL..............that's what the JC is. And I'm living proof of it. To have some here try to defend it is almost as evil and hurtful.
Bliss (who is still amazed at the whole procedure)
........................dubs are not true christians.
they use that point to prove they are and it's that very point that proves they are not!.
i was doing a bit of house work this morning when the phone rang.
........................dubs are NOT true christians. They use that point to prove they are and it's that very point that proves they are NOT!
I was doing a bit of house work this morning when the phone rang. It was my daughter. She rang to wish my hubby a happy step father's day. She left home a while ago, while still very young. Trying to force the 'truth' onto her as a teenager didn't work. We had several years of estrangement but since hubby and I leaving the borg, our relationship has become strong again. After chatting about this and that we said bye and 'love you' to eachother. So simple yet can be so hard with the borg's rules.
After getting off the phone I started thinking how much trouble we had with my 2 oldest kids (teenagers then) and how as a mother I just wanted to work with their wants and needs, to keep loving them no matter what.............while having elders and dub friends telling me to let them go because they had left jehovah!!!! It was a very sad, difficult, confusing, conflicting, frustrating, and regretful time. I remembered the scripture that tells what love is.........it's patient and kind, hopes and believes, does not insist in it's own way etc.
On one hand dubs talk so much about love and pride themselves on possessing it collectively, on the other they are more than happy to encourage people to abandon parental, child, husband, wife, friend, sister, brother love and affection. How many of us woked hard as dubs to do the 'right' thing by the wts and shun, ignore, not associate etc.......despite our natural feelings??? I know I did, with my own children.
I guess the up side to my experience is that now I am out of the borg and enjoy relationships with people without the judgement and conditions. Even with my own adult children I can now say that I 'show' them my love by being patient, kind, hopeful, believing and not controlling. I now don't only 'say' I love you, but hopefully prove it every day in some way.
I know this is an old discussion point, it's been done over and over, but it was something that I thought about quite deeply this morning and wanted to share. Besides, there are always new ones joining us here and they may be interested in adding comments.
Cheers, Bliss (of the unconditional love class)
well i realize that this is a minimus kind of post but this am:.
mr.panda and panda ate breakfast with biscuits instead of toast.
well i started to wonder just how normal this is around the world.
For breakfat in Italy you have a bowl of hot cafe latte (meaning nothing more than milky coffee) probably made with left over espresso from last night. Then you can dump or dunk milk biscuits or yesterday's bread rolls into the bowl and spoon it up. It is something I associate with my childhood and have passed the tradition onto my children. Now in Australia it's very trendy to have a 'latte' in a bowl for breakfast at a cafe, but not having biscuits or bread with it just isn't right!
Personally I always loved bread (toast) the most.
Cheers, Bliss
i thought about this topic last night for the board when watching one of my favorite movies.. 1. the man from snowy river- the part when they are going after the expensive colt and they get to the edge of the cliff and all the other riders stop and "jim" keeps going and leaps down the cliff after the wild horses.
i absolutely love that part of the movie...everytime its on i have to watch it, if not just to see this part only.. 2. love and basketball- when she tells him she will play for his heart...awwww first time i started crying.
and then the music they had playing in the background made it even worse.